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Old 11-18-2004, 01:37 AM   #31
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ok now go to the computer that does connect to the internet ok and do the same thing, and post it here too
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:18 AM   #32
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Here's ipconfig/all on the computer that sees the internet:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : davidunit1
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-5F-49-E9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.52.223.219
24.52.223.218
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:03:1
4 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:03:14
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Thanks for the suggestion sataraid0, but I have tried reopening IE to see if it sees the internet, and no change.

Hope this tells somebody something, cause it doesn't do anything for me!!
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:50 PM   #33
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hey:
I'm still working on this problem, so don't give up on me yet,

the computer that cannot see the internet is working fine on the lan, its just that it does not know how to connect to the internet through the router.

I am thinking that when you ran through the internet connection wizard, that you set it up to connet to the internet through computer that does see the internet, instead of selecting that you connect to the internet through a LAN.
and that would do what you got.

so maybe going into the control panel on the problem computer and remove the cannection as it is , and run the wizard again but select that your on a LAN for the internet connection, this does confuse a lot of people, so redo that part and see what happens.
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Old 11-18-2004, 07:51 PM   #34
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Oh I'm not giving up, and you wouldn't understand how much I appreciate your help on this.

My main concern is being able to register WinXP. I still have like 22 days, so I'm hopin' that's enough time. And I need to mail this computer in the first week of December.

Okay, now I think I tried this before, but I couldn't quite understand if anything happened. I go into the Network connections. I have two connections that appear: "Internet Gateway" and "LAN or High-Speed Internet". Internet Gateway says this under it:

Inernet Connection
Connected
Internet Connection

"LAN or High-Speed Internet" says this:

Local Area Connection
Connected, Firewalled
NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller

Now, when I go to delete the Internet Connection, it tells me to disable it first. Fine, I disable, then delete, but it tells me this connection cannot be deleted. So I disable the LAN connection (then the Internet Connection dissappers) and it doens't let me delete that item either. What do I need to do before I can delete one, and which one needs to be deleted?

Oh, and when I diable the Internet connection on the one computer, it disables it on my computer, which freaked me out there for a second!
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:02 AM   #35
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bingo. you do not want the gate way connection there, that is the whole problem. get rid of that and go frome there
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:38 AM   #36
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If it won't let you delete it, try safe mode, if that doesn't work, try removing you NIC in the device manager, rebooting, (disable nic if it's on board, remove it if it isn't) boot into windows without the NIC, try to disable/delete it then if it's still there, reboot again, turn nic on and rerun the wizard.
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Old 11-19-2004, 10:52 AM   #37
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Cool, sounds like a development!!! I'll give it a whirl and repost!

EDIT: Okay, I can't delete the darn connection! I disabled the connection, then tried deleting, no dice. I disabled the onboard LAN and then the connection (Internet Gateway) just disappeared. Then I tried deleting the Internet Connection (I figured delete that, then enable the LAN controller, then try deleting the Internet Gateway), but it wouldn't let me delete anything. I haven't tried in Safe Mode because I can't remember how to boot in Safe Mode! I seriously need to write some of these things down, too many things to remember at the same time!

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have you tried re-running the wizard and selecting connect to a hub (or however xp words it) it's under "other" on the first page of choices (residential gateway, direct connection, other)...
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Cool, thanks redfallon, that got rid of the gateway connection, now there's just the LAN or HS Internet connection. Only problem is still no internet! Anything else I need to do or should check? I rebooted, thinking that would start the new settings, but nothing. I ran the connection wizard, but nothing.
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remove that one also and redo it
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Old 11-19-2004, 10:21 PM   #41
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Is there another way to delete the one remaining connection? It doesn't allow me to delete it, whether it's disabled or not. Should I try deleting it in safe mode? If so, I don't remember how to get into safe mode.
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i dunno if this applies to your situation, but when i was having trouble with my router someone told me to do a DNS flush, and DNS restore or something like that?? It solved my prob, if anyone here knows more about DNS flush/etc. and wants to fill in the blanks for me that'd be great
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:58 PM   #43
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click the f8 key while rebooting
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No dice. It won't let me delete the connection in Safe Mode. I tried once without network capabilities, and the connection wasn't there. Rebooted in Safe Mode again with networking capability and it wouldn't let me delete the connection; same as in normal boot mode.

Is this normal? I'm getting the feeling that I should be able to delete this connection. Disabling doesn't change anything. Wierd, wierd, wierd!

EDIT: I had someone at work tell me that I was having problems with this because the OEM version of WinXP Home I have has SP2 with it. Would this have anything to do with it???

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Old 11-20-2004, 01:39 AM   #45
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ok unplug the network from the back of the computer, then you say the icon is gone ?
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When I disconnect the ethernet cable, the icon doesn't disappear, but I tells me that there is no connection and to check the cables.

In Safe Mode I wasn't able to enable the connection, although I had disabled it in Safe Mode.
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Old 11-20-2004, 01:55 AM   #47
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can you delet the icon with the network cable removed ?
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Nope, tried that both in Safe and normal boot modes, and still nothing.

Don't know if this means anything, but since I got rid of the Gateway connection on the problematic computer, now there's no Gateway connection icon on my computer. It hasn't affected anything, I just thought it was wierd because I wasn't expecting it.
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Old 11-20-2004, 02:02 AM   #49
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thats ok
try this run the internet connection,

on the first page select other

on the secind page select that this computer connects through a hub/lan

and have the network cable connected

this should give you another connection that works
it will be labeld lan connection
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Ugh, sorry, that didn't do anything. That's what I did to get rid of the Gateway connection. I've got one connection that says "LAN or High Speed Connection" already.
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Old 11-20-2004, 02:13 AM   #51
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can you connect to the internet now
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Negatory buddy.
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Old 11-20-2004, 02:18 AM   #53
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ok do this
pul the power from the router wait a couple minutes and reconnect it
then see if this computer will connect to the internet
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Okay, all that did was make the "Internet Gateway" connection showup again on the second computer! What does that mean? Should I get rid of that connection? It also showed up again on my computer (the Internet Gateway).
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yes we need to get rid of them again, when you do that will involve the rebooting of this one and the changes you made may take affect then.

first do you have a icon in the control panel or this page that say network set up wizard ?
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Yes, I do have an icon in my COntrol Panel that says Network Setup Wizard.

Hey, just a real quick thanks to you Bailey for helpin me out right now! I think we're just about the only members on the forums right now!
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I forgot is this problem computer a w98 system ?
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Nope, both are WinXP Home with SP2 on them. The Win98 machine is out of commision currently, but that's a whole different problem!!!
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do you have hotmail or msn instant messenger you can use
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Yeah, I'm further630 on MSN Instant Messenger. I'm on now.
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