slow internet

[trulad]

I have two identical computers networked together to share files,printers and DSL. Computer "A" is connected to the DSL via a Speedstream modem(ISP provided) Computer "B" is connected via a NetGear router. Everything works but computer "A" (the host) takes several times longer than computer "B" to load a page. For example computer "A" takes nearly a minute to load PCMech new posts while computer "B" loads in 0.075 seconds. Can this be the fault of the router? I've tried everything else.
trulad

[ktkendall]

I'm a little confused here on how you are set up, shouldn't both PC's be connected through the router?? How is it that you have 2 devices connected the the speedstream modem?? (PC-A, and the router) I'm assuming here that computer A must be using the usb connection to the speedstream, and the ethernet connection from the speedstream is going to the router, then you must have PC-B using a port on the router. I would also connect PC-A to a router port. Usb is not recommended way of connecting dsl.

[trulad]

I guess I wasn't clear,my fault. Computer "A" is connected with ethernet cable to a port on the router and a cable from the router to computer "B". I read on this site that USB was not a good choice so I used ethernet.
trulad

[ktkendall]

Thats OK us Pennsylvanians have trouble explaining ourselves properly, many times I explain something to someone, and I might as well be speaking Latin , anyways,, you are connected properly with each PC connected via ethernet to a switch port on the router?? Right?? Has computer 'A' always been that way?? Are you getting IP address automatically or using static IP addressing?? which PC is the one in your sig?? If thats PC B then could you give specs of PC-A?

[trulad]

Thanks
both computers are identical. Both were fast until about a week ago. I have the modem connected to a port labeled"uplink". Is this correct? The directions with the router were not too good.I have a new LinkSys broadband router coming then I will give this one back to my kid. Do you think theLinkSys will work better?
trulad
btw, I was a faithful user of Rolling Rock untill I got hooked on Yuenglings. Hope I didn't put you out of work

[ktkendall]

Sorry, If I had read carefully I would have saw that you stated 2 identical computers, another pennsylvania problem, attention to detail!!!
Are you sure that netgear device is a router, cause from your dsl modem you should be going into a port labeled 'wan' and you should have had to set your user name and password up in the routers wan setup page. Uplink is to go to another ethernet switch so you can add more computers.. And no the RR brewery seems to be doing fine here. My father in law retired from there, and since Labatts bought them out I think they are no longer just a little struggling home town brewery. What part of PA are you in?

[rocket9244]

i was wondering what could be my problem..i play online games and about every minute the game freezes for 1-2 seconds..no big deal ..but i end up behind other players for up to 1 minute lag in a hr long game.i have a, AMD 1.3 biostar m7vig pro board, 384mg 2700 ddr mem, windows xp sp2 home ,100 gig 7200rpm hd,cox high speed cable internet service,nortons internet security 2005. Download Speed: 4098 kbps (512.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 492 kbps (61.5 KB/sec transfer rate).
this happened once before and someone told me to use ethernet card instead of usb..so i did..my puter has on board ethernet,via fast ethernet 10/100..that fixed the prob..well..i moved the puter upstairs and the problem has come back.cable company said there was some loss or a prob in the lines .the cable guy came over.checked everything out and said i have no packet loss nothing bad with the cable wires..said it might be in the modem..i got new modem..same prob...i ran anti virus/microsoft anti spyware/hijack this/and a bunch of other programs.no probs. im fairly comfortable using software/hardware,i fix, update, build computers..so what you think.puter getting old and dieing...weird.. or is this something i gotta pay 50 a month and live with..i can surf ,upload,download just fine..this only happens while i play online games.but it seems as though the computer takes longer then it used to.to boot up after being turned off.and there has been some freezes when i run 3 or 4 programs at once..heres my process list.ytpro.jusched.ccapp.lexpps.spoolsv.lexbces.msmsgs.explorer.ccevtmgr.spbbcsvc.sndsrvc.issvc.ccse tmgr.ccproxy.svchost.5 of those..taskmgr.lsass.services.winlogon.csrss.ypager.smss.navapsvc.symlcvc.alg.system.sysyem idle process. me (C
Volume size = 93.36 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 16.78 GB
Free space = 76.59 GB
Percent free space = 82 %
thanx for your help..you can email me or add me to yahoo messenger. .rocket9244

[ktkendall]

Proper thing to do is start your own post rocket>>
It gets way too confusing if you jump into an ongoing post like this with your own problem>>

[glc]

Which exact model Speedstream modem? The newer ones are trimode modems that are actually routers - those you have to put into the "bridge" mode for proper operation with a 3rd party router. In the bridge mode, your logon will be stored in the router, not the modem. Bridge mode bypasses the PPPoE and the routing functions.

[trulad]

The modem supplied by my ICS is a Speedstream 5200 PPPoE modem and it has ports for power,USB,LAN,and telephone line. The Netgear (Recommended by the ISP) is an EN104 Ethernet hub. The tech from the ISP said not to use bridged mode. He also claims all is working properly,but can't explain why one computer is much faster loading a page. I cleaned out casche,temp files,defragged, no difference. I have a Linksys broadband ethernet router coming from Best Buy in a couple of days. Will this work better.
trulad

[glc]

No, a router will not work properly unless you use bridged mode on the Speedstream. What you have is sufficient as long as the Speedstream is capable of issuing multiple private IP addresses, but a switch will perform better than a hub.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124005

[trulad]

Thanks GLC;
The one I have on the way from Best Buy(on their recommendation) is a Linksys 4 port ethernet Broadband Router-Rt41. If I understand you correctly I would be better off to return it and get the switch in the link you gave me/
trulad

[ktkendall]

It does sound like his speedstream modem is the one that has built in router function, which is why the ISP tech said not to use bridged mode for now, since he is just going into an ethernet hub. Trulad, did you have to get into the speedstreams setup and enter your username and password there..?? And yes I think you are on the right trac by just going ahead and getting a Linksys Broadband router, which when you install that then you do need to put the speedstream into bridge mode, but for now with the hub inplace you don't want bridge mode if you are going to need multiple PC's to use the connection..

[glc]

If you want to use the router that you have coming, you need to put the modem in the bridged mode.

[trulad]

GLC; would I be better off to get the router in the Newegg link you provided and return the Linksys to Best Buy?
trulad

[ktkendall]

The link GLC provided is for an ethernet switch, which I believe he was simply trying to say it is better than a hub, which it is, but if I were you I would keep the linksys router, install it, put the modem in bridge mode and let the Linksys router do its job. The routers wan setup page is where you'll enter your username, password and type of connection, (probably PPPOE).

[glc]

The only problem with that is the ISP won't support bridged mode operation - you are on your own. That's why the ISP's are all switching over to the trimode modems - easier support from their end. When my Earthlink DSL craps out, I have to pull my Westell bridge modem and my Linksys router and put the piece of crap Netopia they gave me back on before they will even talk to me. Bridge mode and Linksys aren't in their cookbooks in India.

[trulad]

So, with the Ethernet switch I wouldn't have to use bridged mode and the ISP would support it?
trulad

[glc]

They should - I just don't know why it's not working right with that hub you have now unless it has a bad port - try a different port and a different cable.

[ktkendall]

You said both were fast unyill about a week ago.. Did anything change that you know of on computer A, a week ago??

[trulad]

No, nothing has changed. No new software,no new hardware.I use it mainly for bookeeping,powerpoint presentations,etc., no gaming. I even did an XP repair but no change. All programs run fast. If I click on Internet Explorer on each machine at the same time,Computer"B" is 45 seconds faster, sometimes more. I even have the same programs on each computer.
trulad

[ktkendall]

Did you try a different port?? Since you sound like you have received the Linksys router, I would certainly at least install it and see if things get better, sounds like the only drawback may be lack of support with the Linksys router and your ISP..

[trulad]

I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't an XP problem. I did an XP repair,went to msconfig and took all non-essential things out,but no good. I noticed this morning when I started both computers at the same time computer "A" takes nearly 60-70 seconds longer than "B" to boot. Maybe it time to re-install. I haven't done that for 6 or seven months.
trulad

[ktkendall]

I would go to task manager and compare the 2 PC's and see what is running different on PC A, or it could be the windows firewall is enabled on A and not B..

[trulad]

I just checked task manager. There are 27 processes running on the slower computer and 32 running on the faster one. Windows firewall is enabled on both. Is it a good idea to disable this?
trulad

[ktkendall]

No it isn't a good idea to disable the Firewall.

[glc]

Have you disconnected the faster computer from the hub and connected the slower one using the same port and cable from the faster one yet? This will rule out the modem, hub, and cable.

[LiTe]

Sorry, just dragging through everything.. are you using USB 2.0? USB Routers are meant to use 2.0. Using them with 1.0 will greatly slow down your internet performance.

[trulad]

yes, I have switched ports and changed cables. Also, the modem is ethernet,not usb.
trulad

[glc]

If you have switched ports and cables, and the same computer is still slow, then the issue is with the computer, not the modem and hub. The router will not do anything for you.