Looking at routers

[Darth Revan]

K I have tried everything possible to get my CSS ping down. It goes up past 200 from 9p to 11p give or take 30 min. I was wondering if I should try to get more bandwidth or somthing from ISP or if as glc suggested get a new router.
I found this one on Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833127060
It had good reviews but I don't really know what to look at spec wise.
Help me please
THX

[KatoPC]

I have never had good luck with D-link products I generally stick with 3COM or Linksys.

[not important]

I recently had the need for a wireless router. I did a lot of asking and the name that came up the most was Linksys. That's what I got, and it works.

[Darth Revan]

Okay While I was looking around I also found this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833164151
A broadband booster.
Is it even worth looking at?
And while looking at router I can't seem to find much.
Can anyone point out a specific one please?
If it helps the only thing I mainly need it for id for gaming.
thx

And would that speed booster work better than forking out 100+ USD for another router?

[Litespeed]

Are you looking for a wired or wireless router? And I would agree on Linksys. I have had the best luck, for the most part, as far as set-up, signal strength, and overall connection.

[theyosh]

Well I've used both LinkSys and D-Link and so far I've had a very good experience with both.

Darth, are you doing anything special with your router besides sharing your internet connection with multiple computers? If not then I don't think you need a router that will cost +$100. All you need is a router with a built in switch and you should be good to go.

theyosh

[glc]

What he needs is to replace the cheap Network Everywhere router he already has. That's a miserable piece of equipment. It may say Linksys on it, but it's not real. It's a cheapie Chinese router that Linksys relabels to sell at Walmart.

[ktkendall]

Doesn't the fact that he has narrowed it down to primetime in the evening pretty nuch show that even with a better router, he may get the ping down a bit, but looks like it an ISP problem mainly during peak usage times. Is this cable broadband??

[glc]

Darth, how about posting a link to your other thread?

[Darth Revan]

RGR, here is the thread
http://www.forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=152188
HTH
I don't know if it is Broadband, i'll try to find out though,
Preferably wired, had trouble with wireless and mobility isn't an issue, just speed.
"Are you doing anything special with the router?" - To that I have no idea, in my thread it says how the connection is set up.

[glc]

Can you borrow a different router to test with so you will stop tearing your hair out? If that doesn't fix it, I'd lean a little harder on the ISP, especially if the problem is only at peak usage times of the day.

[Darth Revan]

I do also have the Linksys Broadband Router with speed booster - Wireless - Model WRT54GS. I had been using it for a while and the wireless just didn't work well so I'd been using it as a regular router with Ethernet cables but it didn't change so I went back to the Network Everywhere router. Is that wireless router another junky router? I finnaly did get a reply from the ISP so I'm going to try the stuff they suggested.
But again just to ask is that Broadband Booster in the opening post worth looking at?
Thx

[Darth Revan]

Okay one of the things Charter told me to run was this test here are the Results: And A graph of there results are in the attachment.
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TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.1e
DO NOT USE YOUR CONNECTION WHILE TEST IS RUNNING
click START to begin
Preparing Speedtest . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (upload) . . . . . 102.62Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (download) . . . . . . 1.56Mb/s

Your speed is 28.38 times faster than 56Kb dialup

Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem

click START to re-test
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This was bandwidthtest.com test results:

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Your line speed
Download start time: 1140197927671
Download end time: 1140197928015
Download time: 0.344
Download size in thousands of bytes: 50
Throughput in Kilobits per Second: 1186
Throughput in Kilobytes per Second: 145.3
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is PCpitstop Bandwith Test:

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Download Bandwidth Test Results
Download speed: 1694 kilobits per second
Test details: 800 kilobytes downloaded in 3.781 seconds.
Receive buffer size: Not available
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And another test from toast.net is in the attachments

[Darth Revan]

Okay and this attachment is the results of me going to Run, cmd, netstat -an
Charter said to contact the PC manufacturer if I have more than 5 ports that say listening, ANY that say Timewait or closewait. And for the ones that say Timewait or Closewait to copy the IP adress From the Foreign Column at abuse.charter.net
Scince I don't have a PC manufacturer, (Custom Built by me =D) How do i close the ports? It worries me because I don't like deleteing this I don't understand.

[glc]

The WRT54GS is an excellent router, if it's doing the same the problem is not the router.

All those addresses in there are either localhost or the router assigned IP, I don't think anything is significant other than you have a lot of game connections and instant messaging going on.

Your service is only 1500k down and 128k up - by today's cable standards that's a pretty poor service. I'd look at the possibility of getting DSL there.

[jayb1234]

Here is a speedtest that will give you a little more information than the others you ran. Hit the statistics and more info buttons after the test runs.

[Darth Revan]

K I ran your test Jay, here are the results,
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WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 119.12Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 1.21Mb/s

------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0_06

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
Cable modem/DSL/T1 link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 356.96 msec; the Packet size = 1380 Bytes; and
No packet loss - but packets arrived out-of-order 10.59% of the time
This connection is receiver limited 68.75% of the time.
Increasing the current receive buffer (64.0 KB) will improve performance
This connection is network limited 31.19% of the time.
Contact your local network administrator to report a network problem

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Information: Network Middlebox is modifying MSS variable
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Information: Network Address Translation (NAT) box is modifying the Client's IP address
Server says [71.80.66.105] but Client says [192.168.1.101]
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And I also ran Toast.net test again and here are the results in the attachment.

I ran both of these right after I got kicked from server with a 200+ms ping. Oh yeah and the Toast test went up during high ping times?


And scince cable is turning into a big negative, I guess DSL is what's next. Is BellSouth good, comcast is not available where I am. What is a good company to look at?
THX

[glc]

Comcast is cable, not DSL. Bellsouth is DSL, they are decent.

[Darth Revan]

Is decent good enough for gaming?

[glc]

Latency is usually pretty decent, and it's not shared bandwidth like cable. Cable usually is a lot faster, but probably not in your case - 1500/128 is slow for cable these days - I think Comcast is 4000/768 or something like that. DSL should be something like 1500/256. The only issue with DSL is being close enough to the phone switch to get service, and the farther out you are, the slower it is.

[Darth Revan]

K will do glc, thx.
BTW what does 1500/800 stand for?
I'm clueless, i know its speed but what exactly?

[Byte 2.0]

Comcast is 4000 by 384

you can pay extra 10 dollars and get 6000 by 768

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by Darth Revan K will do glc, thx. BTW what does 1500/800 stand for? I'm clueless, i know its speed but what exactly?

1500/800 refers to the dowload (1500) and upload (800) speeds.

My Comcast is 6000/384.

[Darth Revan]

Comcast doesn't go to me...
Guess I need to look into BellSouth Fast acees DSL. I was in live chat with a Charter Rep and he told me to run this test of theirs. These are the results, they are pathetic

Analyzer Results:
You downloaded 2.6293 Megabytes in 34 seconds.

Download speed (bits): 633.52 Kbps
Download speed (bytes): 79.19 KBps

And is there a way to get comcast to come to my area?!?!!?!?

[tigstah]

Originally Posted by Byte 2.0 Comcast is 4000 by 384 you can pay extra 10 dollars and get 6000 by 768

unless you live in reston va.
comcast is upgrading everyone who has the service for free to a whopping 16mbs. verizon is offering their fois service there.

[Darth Revan]

And then i ran the other test on the web page and these are those results



Analyzer Results:

You downloaded 2757062 Bytes in 22.75 seconds.
Download speed (Kbits): 947 Kilobit/s.
Download speed (KBytes): 118.375 KiloBytes/s.


You uploaded 2757062 Bytes in 277.672 seconds.
Upload speed (Kbits): 78 Kilobit/s.
Upload speed (KBytes): 9.75 KiloBytes/s.


The site is http://speedtest.sc.charter.com/ if you wanna see how high yours is to mine...