Vista workgroup can't see XP domain

[jepeters]

Most of our school computers are XP pro connecting to a domain server. But we have a few MCE and Vista Home Premium computers that don't connect directly to the domain.

The problem is that I have a shared printer on an XP computer and need to print to it from a Vista Home Premium computer. I can see the XP computer in the domain list, but when I double-click it to get at the printer, it asks for log-in name and password. But I can never get logged in--it won't accept either my login ID or the password.

I can share from one Vista machine to another, or from one XP machine to another, without any problem. What would be preventing me from going from Vista to XP? (when it asks for the password to connect to the XP machine, I'm assuming it means the ID and password for getting on the XP computer's domain, but that doesn't work. I've also tried putting in my log-in and password for the Vista machine and that doesn't work either).

[Panama Red]

I think it needs the name and pwd for logging onto the XP machine - as a user.

[jepeters]

which would be the same name and pwd that I type in to the XP machine when I first log on to the domain, correct?

[Panama Red]

I haven't played with domain networks much. If the user logon and the domain logon occur at the same time or if they use the same name and password, then yes, you are correct. In a simple home or small business network, I've seen where the logon is the name and pwd associated with the user currently logged on to that machine.

[glc]

You have to add a user to the XP computer's *LOCAL* users and groups. Domain credentials do not carry over to that.

[mojo]

Actually, when the XP box that is sharing the printer prompts for your credentials while you are on the vista box, you can provide it with either local or domain credentials. When I say local I mean local to the XP box, not the vista box. Since I'm assuming you don't have admin rights on the XP boxes, you can't add a local account to use.

When you try to connect to the printer and the login promp comes up, in the username field, if you just put your domain username, the XP box will generally compare what you put in to its list of local user accounts (where it won't find anything and tell you go away). You need to tell the XP box that you're using domain credentials. All you need to do is type domainname\username (where domainname is the actual name of your domain) in the username field instead of just your username. This should get you right in.

I'm one of the admins for our windows domain at work that consists of over 500 computers, so we use tricks like that pretty frequently.

[jepeters]

Well, I've messed it up worse now. I wasn't sure what GLC meant, so I logged in to the XP machine locally as the administrator. But of course, then the computer didn't even show up on the network since I wasn't in either the domain or a workgroup.

So, I changed the workgroup to match that of the Vista machine. Wasn't able to add the printer then, either. So I switched it back to logging on to the domain. But ever since, now I don't even get the opportunity to put in an ID and password from the Vista machine. It says 'logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer.'

So, somewhere between changing from a workgroup back to a domain, I messed something up.

Anyway, I did get it set up to print to a color laser using a jet direct box. (only problem is is that the printer is on a different floor at the opposite end of the hallway).

[mojo]

When you changed it back to the domain, did you properly join it to the domain? When you type in a domain name and click apply or OK, it should prompt you to enter a username and password that has domain admin privileges, and then eventually say welcome to the domain. Did all that happen?

Oh and one more thing. Don't worry about "viewing workgroup computers" or anything like that. Just go to the equivialent of the run menu in vista and type \\computername where computername is the name of the XP computer, then click ok or press enter. The list of computers you can click on relies on discovery and a computer elected as a master browser, etc. By just typing
\\computername you will just directly connect with no fuss.

[jepeters]

yes, I got the domain prompt when I changed it back, and I am able to get back on the domain with that computer. There is another teacher with the same setup. I'm going to try hers tonight and try connecting by typing in the domain name and then my ID. I was only putting in my ID yesterday.

[jepeters]

OK, some progress to report. The problem was that (as Mojo stated) I needed to type in the domain name and then my user name. I had tried typing in the name of the server, but hadn't used the domain name before (should have been obvious now that I think about it).

But, on the original computer in question, I still can't get in after I messed around with changing from domain to workgroup and back to domain again. (I used a different teacher's similar setup to test out logging in with the domain name included).

[mojo]

On the not-working XP box, right-click on my computer, then go to manage. Go to local users and groups. Under the Administrators group (and possibly others), make sure that the appropriate domain groups/users are included. I can't tell you precisely what will be appropriate, though it's fairly appropriate for the Domain Admins to be included in the Administrators group. You may just have to copy the configuration from the other XP box that seems to be working fine.