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Old 05-30-2009, 05:52 PM   #1
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cat5 cable run limit ????

This has probably been asked many times but I could not find anything in search.

I have charter here at the house with a linksys router. I have 2 computers set up and everything is great.

My son just bought a Toshiba LT Is there any way that I can get him set up 300' away in a cabin I have up the hill from me ? He can get online 40' down my drive. Can I run a line that far and set up another router ?

Charter can not get to him with a normal cable hook up.

Is 300' to far for a yagi antena ?

A bunch of questions THANKS !!!! for any help ?

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Old 05-30-2009, 06:23 PM   #2
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Cat5 could work. According to Wikipedia (quoting the Cat5 standard):

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...limited to a maximum of 100 m (328 ft) in length (normal practice is to limit fixed ("horizontal") cables to 90 m to allow for up to 5 m of patch cable at each end, this comes to a total of the previous mentioned 100m maximum).
Technically you ought to get "outdoor" ethernet cable (it's better sealed, more durable, and more expensive), but I had a 100' run of standard cat5 going from the top of my 3-story house to the bottom, outdoors, and it worked fine for years.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:43 PM   #3
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Just get a wireless access point and plug an antenna into his unit.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:57 PM   #4
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Thanks
I did not mention that I do not want to broadcast my info all over the valley.

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Old 05-30-2009, 07:12 PM   #5
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Well, if you enable WPA encryption, nobody else is going to be able to read what's going across the link. I don't know what's involved in setting up an access-point configuration beyond that though.
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:26 PM   #6
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Hope this makes sence

If you moved the cabin 80' forward. It would be about 100' straight up over me. The 300' I mentiond is by tape measure from me to him.
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I see what you're saying...what's relevant for the wireless is the straight-line distance (sounds like that would be a about 128 feet...again, I'm not sure what kinds of wireless access ranges are possible). For the cable option, it would be whatever length a tape-measure laid along the ground measures (this assumes you're ok with having an ethernet cable running across the ground).
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Is there much loss in a a cable splitter(charter) ?
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Is there much loss in a a cable splitter(charter) ?
It doesn't matter, because even if you ran a coax line to him, it would still only be one connection and one account in charter's eyes. So I suppose he could have the cable modem and share with you instead of the other way around, but that doesn't make much sense.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:36 AM   #10
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Cat 5e is good for 300 feet. The best way to handle this is buy 2 cheap 4 port switches and install one in your house and one in the cabin, both as close together as possible to minimize the long run. If he wants to be wireless, you can plug a wireless access point (NOT a router) into the switch in the cabin. Run a cable from the router to the switch in your house and a cable between the 2 buildings.
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Depending on the distribution method you might consider using power line adapters. They take network traffic and put it over the power lines, kinda like DSL over the phone lines.
Requires both locations to be on the same transformer and there may be distance issues.
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Cat5 cables are not designed to work out doors in the elements, it won't survive very long unless you use Cat5e Heavy Duty, UTP, Direct Burial, Outdoor Gel Filled Bulk Cable. You will still need to bury it.
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You can use regular CAT5e if you bury a PVC pipe and seal both ends with RTV after you get the cable fished. I have also strung regular CAT5e above ground with no issues.
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i have one question here wat do u guys mean by charter?
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:57 AM   #15
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That's the name of his ISP. It's a TV cable company.
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Shielded (or double-shielded) CAT5 cable can do 100m easily.
Wire pairs 1 & 3 and 2 & 6 are used when the network is working half-duplex, the rest are needed for full-duplex operation, ie. data receiving & transmitting at the same time.
Its not recommended that a CAT5 UTP cable exceed 100 metres.
You will need a signal repeater of some sort and then an additional cable if you want to go further than that.

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