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casey · 09-11-2002, 05:37 AM

Senario:
Small Office with 8 PC’s: ME 6 machines, 98SE 1 machine, XP Home 1 machine.
All PC’s = Fat32 file system.
Networked with 8 port N-Way mini switch, 10/100, cat5.
File & Printer sharing is enabled and all the PC’s can see each other, share files and printers, EXCEPT the XP machine. The other PC’s can see Explorer/Files, can share, copy, backup etc.
BUT cannot see the XP machines printer. (Printer sharing is enabled)
Printer: HP Deskjet 960 cxi
There is no way that I can get any of the other PC’s to see this printer. What am I doing wrong, as nobody over here can help me.
I tried the following:
Tried to install the additional drivers for 98/ME on the XP machine. Right click on the specific printer in printers & faxes (sharing is enabled) ticked the box to install the 98/ME drivers and it asks for the driver. Insert my XP Home CD and search. There is no driver on the CD. (tried every folder for about 50 minutes) Used the XP CD as this is what I read in the help files.
Now I try something different:
Create a temporary folder on my C drive and unzip the latest Win98/ME driver (from HP site) to this folder. Now I try again. Browse to Temp folder where the 98/ME driver is and try the install from there, but get the following message THE FILE “HP_INSTALL” CANNOT BE FOUND.
There is nothing wrong with the driver as the same driver is used on another PC in ME.
Am I just stupid ? have spend at least 4 hours on this and can’t figure it out.
Hoe do I get this printer to show up on the network ????

highrisemech · 09-11-2002, 06:20 AM

I would go to the HP web site and look for an XP compatible driver for this printer and install that driver. Actually I did find an Xp driver at thier web site. Win 98/Me drivers usually do not work in an XP machine. Xp requires thier own drivers for devices in most cases. Although you will have to use the win98/Me drivers on the other win 98/ME respective computers.

casey · 09-11-2002, 06:32 AM

Thanks for replying,
The XP driver is installed on the XP machine and works fine. (latest driver from HP website.) The problem is that the other PC's cannot see the printer over the network and apparently what I have to do is to install a 98/ME driver on the XP machine.(to accomodate other operating systems)

highrisemech · 09-11-2002, 06:37 AM

No, I think you will have to install the printer as a local on the respective computers.

***glc*** · 09-11-2002, 07:07 AM

Install it as a local printer on each machine, put it back on the XP box and share it, then add a network port on each of the 9x/ME boxes. It might be easier to put it on a Jet Direct.

casey · 09-11-2002, 07:30 AM

GLC,
1. Ok, so I take the printer to each PC that might want to use it, attach it to that PC and install the driver.
2. Share it:
What is the reason that while it is already shared it cannot be seen over the network ?
3. Network port:
4. How do I add a network port ?
What is Jet Direct ? never heard of it.

casey · 09-11-2002, 07:40 AM

Excuse the ignorance but I have never worked with NT/2000 before so a couple of things is not that clear to me. Have been using XP for the last 6 weeks. (know 95/98/ME inside out)
Printer cannot be seen while shared:
is this because there is no driver for it ? or is there some other explanation. Can't be the file system, because on this PC it is fat32.
Have just tried sharing a Deskjet 980cxi at my office (on XP PC) and the other 98/ME PC's cannot see it either.

casey · 09-11-2002, 08:09 AM

highrisemech / GLC
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!
Figured it out and got it working!! Gee wiz am I happy that this is working.
Thanks a million, this site is the best in the world.
THANKS AGAIN.
GLC.

***glc*** · 09-13-2002, 11:03 AM

A Jet Direct is a print server, a little box with one or more parallel ports and a RJ-45 jack. It connects a printer directly into a network alleviating the need for a printer to be dependent on a computer that it's connected to. With 8 PC's this is a far easier way to network a printer and also it can be centrally located for user convenience.

casey · 09-13-2002, 03:04 PM

GLC,Thanks for the info. I learn something new every day on this site.

piasabird · 09-16-2002, 12:17 PM

Usually Jet Direct needs a server for networking like netware.

***glc*** · 09-16-2002, 02:36 PM

Not true - a Jet Direct works beautifully on a peer-to-peer network. All you need is TCP/IP on all machines and IPX on the machine that is used to admin the thing.

Tuf · 09-16-2002, 10:34 PM

That's whole idea of using the JetDirect, so you don't have to have a printserver.

casey · 09-17-2002, 11:51 AM

Thanks again everyone.

09-11-2002, 05:37 AM	#1
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	Cannot see printer on network (Deskjet 960) Senario: Small Office with 8 PC’s: ME 6 machines, 98SE 1 machine, XP Home 1 machine. All PC’s = Fat32 file system. Networked with 8 port N-Way mini switch, 10/100, cat5. File & Printer sharing is enabled and all the PC’s can see each other, share files and printers, EXCEPT the XP machine. The other PC’s can see Explorer/Files, can share, copy, backup etc. BUT cannot see the XP machines printer. (Printer sharing is enabled) Printer: HP Deskjet 960 cxi There is no way that I can get any of the other PC’s to see this printer. What am I doing wrong, as nobody over here can help me. I tried the following: Tried to install the additional drivers for 98/ME on the XP machine. Right click on the specific printer in printers & faxes (sharing is enabled) ticked the box to install the 98/ME drivers and it asks for the driver. Insert my XP Home CD and search. There is no driver on the CD. (tried every folder for about 50 minutes) Used the XP CD as this is what I read in the help files. Now I try something different: Create a temporary folder on my C drive and unzip the latest Win98/ME driver (from HP site) to this folder. Now I try again. Browse to Temp folder where the 98/ME driver is and try the install from there, but get the following message THE FILE “HP_INSTALL” CANNOT BE FOUND. There is nothing wrong with the driver as the same driver is used on another PC in ME. Am I just stupid ? have spend at least 4 hours on this and can’t figure it out. Hoe do I get this printer to show up on the network ????

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09-11-2002, 06:20 AM	#2
highrisemech Member (12 bit) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 2,067	I would go to the HP web site and look for an XP compatible driver for this printer and install that driver. Actually I did find an Xp driver at thier web site. Win 98/Me drivers usually do not work in an XP machine. Xp requires thier own drivers for devices in most cases. Although you will have to use the win98/Me drivers on the other win 98/ME respective computers.

09-11-2002, 06:32 AM	#3
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	Thanks for replying, The XP driver is installed on the XP machine and works fine. (latest driver from HP website.) The problem is that the other PC's cannot see the printer over the network and apparently what I have to do is to install a 98/ME driver on the XP machine.(to accomodate other operating systems)

09-11-2002, 06:37 AM	#4
highrisemech Member (12 bit) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 2,067	No, I think you will have to install the printer as a local on the respective computers.

09-11-2002, 07:07 AM	#5
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,348	Install it as a local printer on each machine, put it back on the XP box and share it, then add a network port on each of the 9x/ME boxes. It might be easier to put it on a Jet Direct.

09-11-2002, 07:30 AM	#6
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	GLC, 1. Ok, so I take the printer to each PC that might want to use it, attach it to that PC and install the driver. 2. Share it: What is the reason that while it is already shared it cannot be seen over the network ? 3. Network port: 4. How do I add a network port ? What is Jet Direct ? never heard of it.

09-11-2002, 07:40 AM	#7
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	Excuse the ignorance but I have never worked with NT/2000 before so a couple of things is not that clear to me. Have been using XP for the last 6 weeks. (know 95/98/ME inside out) Printer cannot be seen while shared: is this because there is no driver for it ? or is there some other explanation. Can't be the file system, because on this PC it is fat32. Have just tried sharing a Deskjet 980cxi at my office (on XP PC) and the other 98/ME PC's cannot see it either.

09-11-2002, 08:09 AM	#8
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	highrisemech / GLC YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!! Figured it out and got it working!! Gee wiz am I happy that this is working. Thanks a million, this site is the best in the world. THANKS AGAIN. GLC.

09-13-2002, 11:03 AM	#9
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,348	A Jet Direct is a print server, a little box with one or more parallel ports and a RJ-45 jack. It connects a printer directly into a network alleviating the need for a printer to be dependent on a computer that it's connected to. With 8 PC's this is a far easier way to network a printer and also it can be centrally located for user convenience.

09-13-2002, 03:04 PM	#10
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	GLC,Thanks for the info. I learn something new every day on this site.

09-16-2002, 12:17 PM	#11
piasabird Member (11 bit) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Confluence of the Mississippi and Misouri Rivers Posts: 1,242	Usually Jet Direct needs a server for networking like netware.

09-16-2002, 02:36 PM	#12
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,348	Not true - a Jet Direct works beautifully on a peer-to-peer network. All you need is TCP/IP on all machines and IPX on the machine that is used to admin the thing.

09-16-2002, 10:34 PM	#13
Tuf Member (12 bit) Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,261	That's whole idea of using the JetDirect, so you don't have to have a printserver.

09-17-2002, 11:51 AM	#14
casey Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 587	Thanks again everyone.

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