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Old 03-23-2003, 08:52 PM   #1
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win xp, win 98se network problem

Keep inmind I was not at these computers, i was working over the phone and I am just asking to try and understand why it did not work.

Today I was working on a Win 98 and Win XP network. The Win XP had a printer that we wanted to share to the win 98 PC.
PC1, Win XP could find anything shared on PC 2 win98
PC 2 win98 could not see the shared printer on PC1.

No Firewalls. Both in same work group.
I tried to share a folder on win XP and we could not enable it to share to the network. The option was greyed out. Then my customer informed me that he has disabled a few services in win xp. I had him turn them back on and reboot, still no share to the network. uninstaleld and reinstalled file and printer sharing and unshared and reshared the printer. Could not turn on sharing for directories. I could not get past the thought that some how the problem of a file not sharing was related to the shared printer not sharing.

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I had the same issue with a Win98 and Win 2000 network. The Win 2000 could see but the Win 98 could not. The odd thing was that if I did a search from the Win98 machine for the Win 2000 machine it found what I wanted but nothing showed in network neighborhood. After fiddling with it awhile I got the Win 2000 machine to show up, but I had to install NetBEUI on both machines first. Don't know why.
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Old 03-24-2003, 09:15 AM   #3
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Sounds like you got the network working over netbeui instead of TCP/IP. Probably would have worked over IPX/SPX but it has been years since I have used IPX/SPX and I have never used Netbeui, in fact I dont' know why but I have seen alot of problems fixed by uninstalling Netbeui. So i am confused.
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I used to work for the IT department of a large travel agency and we had a telemarketing room setup. They were doing both inbound, and outbound. The T1 phone lines were routed through the server and the calls distributed and tracked. The outbound calls were done through an autodialer that was ran off of several different machines tied into other T1's. The servers were Windows 2000 server, the inbound reps computers and the autodialers were all Windows 2000. The outbound reps machines that were fed by the autodialers were all Windows 98 machines. I was just the grunt and built all of the servers and computers and I had to set the Windows 98 machines up on the network. I struggled for several hours trying to get the Win 98 machines to see the servers. My Supervisor, who had a Hitler complex, came and asked what was taking so long. I told him the problem I had and he said to install NetBEUI on the 98 machines. I did that and it worked. The odd thing was, and I still don't believe this, is that later after it was all up and running, he had me uninstall NetBUEI and the Win 98 machines could still see the server. I asked him why, but the Hitler came out and he said he didn't have time to teach me what I should already know. I never did find out if that was a fluke, sheer luck, something he had setup on the servers or what. A couple of years later when I was trying to setup my home network and was having the same issue, installing NetBUEI fixed it and I STILL don't know why.
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well, here at my home, I have a win98se and a winxp pro. Only TCP/IP on both. I didn't let netbeui or IPX/SPX install on either.
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Old 03-25-2003, 10:42 AM   #6
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I don't use TCP/IP for filesharing on networks with less than 10 machines. NetBEUI is simple and nonroutable, therefore inherently secure. It does become inefficient with a lot of machines, 10 seems to be the breakpoint where you really do need TCP/IP.
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