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Old 04-10-2003, 06:09 PM   #31
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TireTool, my sentiments exactly. Look at the liberal leadership....Tom the Dash (who should have been cast as Damien in my opinion) Grab heart, who is reasonably photogenic if he keeps his mouth closed. Scary Kerry, who needs another barber and a speechwriter.
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Old 04-10-2003, 06:21 PM   #32
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Don't forget Peloser!

Oh... If I don't like the Republican running, I write in my own name. Once in a while I make the local paper.
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Old 04-11-2003, 08:31 AM   #33
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Well guys and gals at least you bother to vote at all which i applaud you for,To bad many dont as then we could have some real change instead of the status quo of Republicrats.
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So what are you saying mr krinkle.... that Republicans are more responsible and care more about how our country is run?
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Maybe if we bombard Mr Krinkle with questions and he types til his liberal fingers begin to bleed then we will all have learned something. The obvious presense of blood on the keyboard means they ARE human.....(...sigh...)
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WJWheels the party in power is the most corrupt one.

AlwaysUp I would be more than happy to oblige you if you have something of substance to ask of me.

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Old 04-11-2003, 11:22 AM   #37
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Reagan should be imprisoned for his crimes. He knew Saddam was using biological/chemical weapons, and he decided to reopen relations with Iraq, providing them vast amounts of money and weapons for his war with Iran. He knew Saddam was using chemcial weapons on his own people, and refused to stop the flow of money, overriding Congress on that matter.

In my mind, if you knowingly give money and weapons to a murderer, you're as guilty as he is.

Personally, I think it's people like Reagan that make me afraid to vote Republican. I think they have great ideals, but they never practice what they preach.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:43 AM   #38
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I don't think he knew what was going on over there at all... and there's no way you can prove it now because his health has failed him so.

So I don't believe a word of what you just said. And furthermore, I'd wager that the real reason you're scared to vote Republican is because of all the garbage that the Democrats have fed your ears over the years.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:59 AM   #39
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Actually, he DID know, the US State department even made an official statement regarding the use of chemical weapons in 1983, as did the UN! And the US Congress voted on sanctions against Iraq in 1988 which was squelched by the White House.

From the US State Department, March 05, 1984:

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Available evidence indicates that Iraq has used lethal chemical weapons.
From the UN, on March 24, 1984:

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Chemical weapons in the form of aerial bombs have been used in the areas inspected in Iran by the specialists. The types of chemical agents used were bis-(2-chlorethyl)-sulfide, also known as mustard gas, and ethyl N, N-dimethylphosphoroamidocyanidate, a nerve agent known as Tabun.
The whole WORLD knew about it. The UN had direct evidence (they actually sent observers and tested for chemical weapons use), and the State Department obviously knew about it, and somehow Reagan doesn't know? He should be the best informed man on Earth. Anyone with a newspaper subscription would have known about Iraq's chemical weapons, it's not some big secret.

And you can't really say he didn't know about the 1988 gassing of the Kurds, when Congress apparently knew about it well enough to pass sanctions on Iraq, to be killed by Reagan, largely because American companies were making a lot of profit by selling technology to Iraq, and they strongly opposed sanctions.

Further, a report in 1992 by the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs showed that the US had, during the 1980s, sold Iraq materials needed to make biological and chemical weapons, including VX gas and anthrax, under the premise of Hussein using them to "research antidotes and countermeasures for biological and chemical weapons". So we were selling the raw materials that could be used to make chemical and biological weapons to a man we knew had already used such things.

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Old 04-11-2003, 12:18 PM   #40
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Paul, then you agree that Jimmy Carter should be jailed also for allowing the Islamic extremists to take over Iran and by all accounts murder up to 4 million of the brightest people in that country. After all it was Carter who withdrew support for the Shah.
Not to mention that he did absolutely nothing to end the occupation of the U.S. Embassy (An Act of War under International Law). Also he failed to stop the French from starting construction of the Nuclear Reactor in Iraq.
Clinton should be tried for bombing the pharmacutical plant in the Sudan, a civilian facility.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:27 PM   #41
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The Shah was a corrupt leader who was overwhelmingly despised by the people he ruled, and although Carter did stop supporting him, he never gave aid to the Ayatollah. Had Carter given aid to the Ayatollah, he should face criminal charges for aiding a murderer. But refusing to support the Shah is not the same as supporting the Ayatollah.

And the pharmacutical plant in Sudan was believed by the US State Department at the time to be (and may well have been)producing precursors to chemical weapons for Al Quaida.

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