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Subject: Our President is doing what is right. Support Our Troops
The other day, my nine year old son wanted to know why we were at war. My husband looked at our son and then looked at me. My husband and I were in the Army during the Gulf War and we would be honored to serve and defend our country again today. I knew that my husband would give him a good explanation. My husband thought for a few minutes and then told my son to go stand in our front living room window. He told him: "Son, stand there and tell me what you see?" "I see trees and cars and our neighbors houses," he replied. "OK, now I want you to pretend that our house and our yard is the United States of America and you are President Bush." Our son giggled and said "OK." "Now son, I want you to look out the window and pretend that every house and yard on this block is a different country," my husband said. "OK Dad, I'm pretending." "Now I want you to stand there and look out the window and see that man come out of his house with his wife and he has her by the hair and is hitting her. You see her bleeding and crying. He hits her in the face, he throws her on the ground, then he starts to kick her to death. Their children run out and are afraid to stop him, they are crying, they are watching this but do nothing because they are kids and afraid of their father. You see all of this son....what do you do?" "Dad?" "What do you do son?" "I call the police, Dad." "OK. Pretend that the police are the United Nations and they take your call, listen to what you know and saw but they refuse to help. What do you do then son?" "Dad, but the police are supposed to help!" my son starts to whine. "They don't want to son, because they say that it is not their place or your place to get involved and that you should stay out of it," my husband says. "But Dad...he killed her!!," my son exclaims. "I know he did...but the police tell you to stay out of it. Now I want you to look out that window and pretend you see our neighbor who you're pretending is Saddam turn around and do the same thing to his children." "Daddy...he kills them?" "Yes, son, he does. What do you do?" "Well, if the police don't want to help, I will go and ask my next door neighbor to help me stop him," our son says. "Son, our next door neighbor sees what is happening and refuses to get involved as well. He refuses to open the door and help you stop him," my husband says. "But Dad, I NEED help!!! I can't stop him by myself!!" "WHAT DO YOU DO SON?" Our son starts to cry. "OK, no one wants to help you, the man across the street saw you ask for help and saw that no one would help you stop him. He stands taller and puffs out his chest. Guess what he does next son?" "What Daddy?" "He walks across the street to the old ladies house and breaks down her door and drags her out, steals all her stuff and sets her house on fire and then...he kills her. He turns around and sees you standing in the window and laughs at you. WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!" "Daddy..." "WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!" Our son is crying and he looks down and he whispers, "I close the blinds, Daddy." My husband looks at our son with tears in his eyes and asks him ... "Why?" "Because Daddy.....the police are supposed to help...people who needs it....and they won't help.... You always say that neighbors are supposed to HELP neighbors, but they won't help either... they won't help me stop him...I'm afraid.... I can't do it by myself...Daddy.....I can't look out my window and just watch him do all these terrible things and...and.....do nothing...so.... I'm just going to close the blinds.... so I can't see what he's doing........ and I'm going to pretend that it is not happening." I start to cry. My husband looks at our nine year old son standing in the window, looking pitiful and ashamed at his answers to my husbands questions and he tells him...."Son" "Yes, Daddy." "Open the blinds because that man.... he's at your front door... "WHAT DO YOU DO?!!!!" My son looks at his father, anger and defiance in his eyes. He balls up this tiny fists and looks his father square in the eyes, without hesitation he says: "I DEFEND MY FAMILY DAD!! I'M NOT GONNA LET HIM HURT MOMMY OR MY SISTER, DAD!!! I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM, DAD, I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM!!!!!" I see a tear roll down my husband's cheek and he grabs my son to his chest and hugs him tight, and cries... "It's too late to fight him, he's too strong and he's already at YOUR front door son..... you should have stopped him BEFORE he killed his wife. You have to do what's right, even if you have to do it alone, before......it's too late," my husband whispers. THAT scenario I just gave you is WHY we are at war with Iraq. When good men stand by and let evil happen is the greatest EVIL of all. Our President is doing what is right. We, as a free nation, must understand that this war is a war of humanity. WE must remove this evil man from power so that we can continue to live in a free world where we are not afraid to look out our window and see crimes on humanity. So that my nine year old son won't grow up in a world where he feels that if he just "closes" the blinds the atrocities in the world won't affect him. Today the second day of "WAR on IRAQ" I felt compelled to write this and pass it along. Hopefully, you will understand the lesson my husband tried to teach our son. "YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT! EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!" BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! BE PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENT! BE PROUD OF OUR TROOPS!! SUPPORT THEM!!! SUPPORT AMERICA!! SO THAT IN THE FUTURE OUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER HAVE TO CLOSE THEIR BLINDS...." |
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That is an excellent analogy.
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VERY GOOD!!!!!!
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the armed forces are to be used only for the defense of the homeland. Civil wars are for overthrowing corrupt and deceitful governments. Iraq is in the middle east; the middle east is a reigon of the world where men carry Kalashnikov AK-47's in the streets openly, a reigon where children learn to shoot a gun soon after they can walk to defend the family from the government. the house is not a man, a woman, and children; it is a house of men, women, teens, and children; many armed. if they won't do what is best for them, that's their own fault. it is not our place to be the social worker of society, we don't have the manpower, the money, or the weapons to do this forever. George Bush must be stopped, he is the Hitler incarnate, killing innocent people for no reason other than race. how can someone be so near-sighted into thinking that brainwashing children into thinking that our neighbors are our enemies? Surely you have tuned into CNN or MSNBC and seen the bloodshed; Iraqi Republican Guard surrendering without a shot fired, while Warthogs and Apaches bomb our people. if you don't care about the Iraqi children, women, old men and women being caught in the crossfire, think of the POW's that we have rescued, tortured, and shot repeatedly, they would be safe at home if Bush hadn't tried to take over the world. if anyone reading this has ever thought what the civillians in Nazi Germany heard on the news, turn on CNN. i have no doubt in my mind that future generations, who have put their petty differences aside, ignoring skin color, religion, sex, or any other difference, will view us as we view Nazi's today. I love my country, make no mistake, but i don't need to love my government to love my country.
Open Your Eyes, Open Your Mouths, Close Your Hands And Make a Fist! ~written by a 14 year-old who still clings to such an antiquated idea as the sanctity of human lives Last edited by Hey_Mr._Jack; 05-07-2003 at 01:50 AM. |
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Well, that was a complete waste of my reading time. Another person that forgets the NAZI's were the socialist party of Germany.
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Mr Jack I am sorry you are so out of touch with the real world. The sancity of human life is what it is all about.
glc....great post!
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What a bunch of bull****. Yeah, Iraq is a hellhole and Saddam is an asshole, but what are we going to do about it? Bush will give a tiny spec of money to Iraq for reconstruction. The media will focus on other things. Saddam will be replaced by a puppet who will either turn on us or be overthrown. Iraq will be the same as always but with less living people and worse living conditions.
PS: Why would anyone make their kid cry just to explain their view of the Iraq situation? Last edited by NSS; 05-07-2003 at 07:08 PM. |
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if human life is what its all about, why are we sending troops into Iraq to be bombed, gassed, and possibly nuked to settle a score between saddam and the bushes? |
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7billion in aid is a "spec" of money eh???
What would you propose we do? This is my new philosophy with anti-americans, Im sooo tired of arguning with them, I just ask what they think we should be doing... So whats the good plan you got? Leave Saddam there? A proven mad man who may or may not be attempting to produce Nuclear or Bio weapons? Let terrorists go unpunished for their crimes?? I have yet to hear someone offer a better idea of what we should do.
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Saddam does not have nuclear weapons. If he did, we would know. No nation with a nuclear weapon has ever suffered a significant attack.
7 billion dollars sounds like a lot but it isn't. With the amount of money wealthy governments deal with, it is a spec. Besides, 7 billion will not come close to what is needed to fix the damage we did. I'm not going to come up with a plan for how to deal with Iraq. We don't need one. We don't need to fight Iraq. We never did. Even if by some miracle Saddam got his hands on nuclear weapons he wouldn't attack us. PS: So what terrorist attacks are you talking about here? Saddam commits less atrocities than many other dictators who we leave alone.
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with all the money spent fighting phantom threats, i can't have 8 classes next year. three of my eight teachers got pink slips, grades are dropping, and for what? to save some people from a man when the people we are saving don't even try for themselves? nuclear weapons have been used twice in warfare, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Fat man and little boy. both were dropped from american B-52's. we killed thousands of innocent civillians, millions living with and dying from nuclear radiation induced diseases. nuclear weapons have been trumped up as a "Threat" by the news corporations who are only interested in RATINGS, if everyone can see how powerful nuclear explosions are, nobody would even develop them. ask anyone form 1940's japan. my neighbor was in tokyo when the bombs were dropped. his entire family, save for an older sister, lived in Nagasaki. when he heard the news he dropped to the ground and wept in the streets. he was not alone.
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believing everything you hear is ignorance.
believing nothing you hear is ignorance. ignorance is the #1 killer in history. |
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Every nations leader says that "Our side is right"
Every nations leader says that "Nows the time to fight" But they use the common people to settle their scores But not if we refuse to fight in any other wars! We're looking to start a new army Too smart to fight Too smart to die For you We're looking for a few good men We're looking for a few good women Who are willing to fight against tyranny But who refuse to fight, with tyranny ~Anti-Flag truer words have seldom been spoken |
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Quite a flare for the dramatic
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no, a flare for the truth
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no, a flare for the truth.
if thats the best you could do for a comeback, that shows which side is right... (mine, the anti-war one) |
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i don't know why my reply came up twice.
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Mr Jack.....we, the troops go and go willingly brcause that is why we are here. Iraq is a threat to the US. This isn't a score to settle between the Bush family and Sadman Insane. if this was the goal, we could have done the kill Sadman thing in '91. I was there and I tell you it would have been trival to just turn north and take Bagdad. Soldiers offer our lives willingly. The dead civilians are regretable. No one wants that, but I think we did our best to limit it. Iraq has been a festering sore that needed healing. Those people now have a chaqnce to make thier life better. No one is under the illusion that we will be loved there. No one is awaitng thanks. It needed doing and so it was done. I truely think your lost classes are a small sacrifice for the freedom of an entire nation.
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and you know Jack.....I wonder how many lives were saved after the nukes were dropped. That was the thing that broke Japan's pride and won thier surrender. How much longer would the war have been? How many more dead? wasn't it enough already?
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NSS, you are too literal....I think you missed the point.
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i support the troops 100%, i don't support the war. the soldiers are following orders from a man i don't believe should be in office. i won't be one of those guys that booed the vietnam vets because they were in the war, but i would boo bush, who started the war
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A spec....Do you have any idea what 50 US dollars will get you in Iraq??
We give them jobs, money, clean water, food, money, we are also trying to establish some form of authority figure over there to stop the looting and what not... Under the circumstances what more can the US do? If all you can do is complain...is it even really worth it...if you had a better idea that would atleast give you the right to complain, but god... if all its gonna be is whining about how its not a good thing to do...Why bother???? |
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Comparing Mr Bush to Hitler is just plain stupid. I think Sadman Insane came much closer to Hitler. If you think all the soldiers of Iraq all just gave up without a fight then you are just plain wrong. Yes CNN and MSNBC don't show the entire story. they spared you much of the real story. It was better for them to show you 1000 POWs than 1000 dead. I am not sure I understand your point. You say you support the troops but you complain that they kill soldiers who are not fighting back.
Sir, I think you should get your head out of the sand and look around you. |
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we could have dropper the bomb in the sea of japan, and told the japanese if they didn't surrender, we would drop the bomb on them
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O K. If you say so.
I don't think even you belive that. |
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i don't mean that the US soldiers are killing surrendering Iraqi troops, i meant that the Iraqi civillians AND US troops are killed in friendly fire. I would support a war if there was a good reason, but there is no reason start a war for no reason
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You know, the point is moot anyway. What is done is done. We have removed a very evil man and given the Iraqi's a chance. What thet do with it remains to be seen. War is a dirty job. Bad things happen to good (and evil) folks.
We will have to wait and see, but I think history will show that the US took an important step when we went to war this time. The message is clear (as it should be to everyone after 911) The USA will no longer sit back and take it, we will move first to take out potential threats............ Now I just hope the rest of the world is listening. If not it will be a bloody century. |
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if all our options were depleted, then i would approve of the nuking, and i do believe it.
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well mr Jack, just remember that all that blood spilled is what bought you your right to say what you wish.
I hope you are enjoying it |
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i know whats done is done, I'm not ignorant. trying to change the country overnight will not work, this will take time, money and manpower, while we have problems at home, AIDS is running rampant across the globe, cancer is going uncured, and homeless people are everywhere (even in my small town). i know Saddam is a bad man, but before we make the world a better palce, we should make America a better place
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