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Member (14 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada
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Oooooooohhhhhhhhhh! I get the picture Archie.
------------------ Who needs a life?, I have internet! Cheers, Jim http://members.cnx.net/reboot |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Everett, WA
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Had a go at it last night with my old 133 w/ win95. I couldn't get past scandisk. It kept restarting and would never finish. I tried to close out just about everything in the taskbar with same results. My guess is I have something trying to access the drive during scandisk but I can't figure out what.
Any suggestions? ------------------ 24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ...coincidence? |
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Member (11 bit)
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Memphis, Tn
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Hey Wiz, the what that is accessing your harddrive during Scandisk is Windows itself dynamically trying to resize your swap file. Under the performance tab of system properties (device manager) go into virtual memory and uncheck the box that says let windows manage the virtual memory and click on let me specify my own virtual memory settings. Pick a size about 2-3 times the ram in your computer and make both the minimum and maximun size that same amount. This makes a permanent swap file of this size on your harddrive and windows will not try to write to it anymore while Scandisk is running. After you run Scandisk you can change this back if you want but I recommend against it. Ignore the warnings that Windows will give you when you try to do this. If you have enough harddrive space you can't hurt your system, but do not disable virtual memory.
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#34 |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Jul 1999
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Wiz
Make sure your screen saver is off too! |
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Member (14 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada
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Wiz. Scandisk and defrag all your HDs and partitions.
If you have a program that runs from D, and the registry knows this, it will look at D to find it during the process. If D is not defragged, it will take much longer to run. ------------------ Who needs a life?, I have internet! Cheers, Jim http://members.cnx.net/reboot |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Everett, WA
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will let y'all know tomorrow.
Thanks for all the input. Mike ------------------ 24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ...coincidence? |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Everett, WA
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Gents,
Worked like a champ. Sys.dat went from 1.61 - 1.54 User.dat 112k - 100k All in about 56 minutes. Thanks ![]() Mike |
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#38 |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Everett, WA
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Carl,
Thanks, I will give that a try tonight. I'm running 2 drives -1 @ 1.7 (c) and 1 @ 1.5 partitioned (d and e) with 32 mb. I assume I should only run scandisk on c. Mike ------------------ 24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ...coincidence? |
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#39 |
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Member (13 bit)
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Idea....make ramdrive....copy *.reg into it....run regedit /c
Just thinking....I might have to try it. ------------------ M. A. Dockter Forum Administrator mdockter@pcmech.com |
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#40 |
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Member (8 bit)
Join Date: May 1999
Posts: 218
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Hi:
tried your regedit however I get the statement after typing importing file (100% complete) This takes 25 seconds to complete. Iam using a desktop locking program called fortress however I have disabled the program. I have the option to restart in msdos mode which I have.! Any ideas thanks glenrose |
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#41 |
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Premium Member
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 9,231
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Hey Reboot:
That procedure did eerie, strange, godless WONDERFUL things for my systems! Took 2.5 hours on my laptop, but it works as if its using CAFFIENE instead of SDRAM! Thanx a heap! |
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#42 |
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Member (14 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada
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Here's the trick folks.
This isn't a magical fix all. If you have other system problems, this may not work. It has not been tried with all available software (duh!). If you have a stable system, that's a little cluttered, or an older install (more than 6 months), this will clean things up not fix IRQ conflicts or other problems. If you find that the process does not work do a re-install of your current OS over top of itself, then try this again. ------------------ Who needs a life?, I have internet! Cheers, Jim http://members.cnx.net/reboot |
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#43 |
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Member (7 bit)
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Great tip Reboot! I just did the procedure and it took a little over 2 hours. Here are my results:
Old System.dat........... 4749 KB Old User.dat............. 1157 KB New System.dat........... 4589 KB New User.dat............. 961 KB Everything seems to be running smoothly. This installation of Windows is only about 4 months old, so I must have had ALOT of junk in there! ------------------ >> shred |
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#44 |
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Member (7 bit)
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 93
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WOW!user.dat; before 848KB after 716KB: System dat before 4.94 MB after 4.35 MB. And I thought that I was running a lean Registry!!!!! Thanks reboot.........
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#45 |
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Member (5 bit)
Join Date: Sep 1999
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Great job reboot. I tried it. It took 14 hrs. system.dat went down from 6,337Mb to 6,041. However the user.dat went up from 225kb to 661kb. Why the increase I dont know. I was actually hoping that the process will clean up my '98 freezing whenever I hang the modem (56K 3COM USR Winmodem). But it didn't. Not withstanding its a great process. Hall of fame! Definately
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#46 |
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Member (14 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada
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If it takes longer than a couple of hours, you probably have lots of things on the HD(s), lots of things in temp dirs, lots of things in browser cache, a fragmented drive, possible bad sectors, or all the above.
It's a CPU intensive process, and the slower the machine, and the less RAM available, the slower it will be. ------------------ Who needs a life?, I have internet! Cheers, Jim http://members.cnx.net/reboot |
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#47 |
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Member (1 bit)
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i stumbled across a link to this thread in the virtualdr win98 forum, and posted it in the windows 98 annoyances forum. received a few replies. check them out... one of them even tells how to make the process faster:
http://www.annoyances.org/cgi-bin/ce...how?n938749692 |
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#48 |
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Member (14 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada
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The process metioned at the link above does not do as throrough a job (I think).
I will try it, and let you know. P.S. Here's the credit I promised. This process is due to the hard work of Shane Chen, whose web page is no longer available. ------------------ Who needs a life?, I have internet! Cheers, Jim http://members.cnx.net/reboot |
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#49 |
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Member (10 bit)
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: San Francisco, CA US
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I am posting this here and in the Windows 95 forum.
I used the Shop Vac trick to clean out my registry in Windows 95 OSR2. Well, it cleaned out something all right because my User.dat was 548kb and afterward was 381kb. My System.dat was 4,746kb and aftward was 4,537kb However, it cleaned out more than just my registry. Just a minute before I began running the Shop Vac, I sent email with Outlook Express so I know that Outlook Express was working fine. After running Shop Vac, all my email in the Inbox and Sentmail disappeared. And all my email settings were gone as Outlook prompted me to set it up again as though I had never used it. Can anyone explain? Everything else seems to be working fine and so far I haven't noticed anything else missing. Also, no one has really explained how this system works other than that it cleans out the registry. I don't understand how it is cleaning out the registry. |
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#50 |
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Well, I think Reboot deserves credit for posting that procedure here. I heard about it from him first, and so did a lot of the other people here. Obviously he didn't "invent" the trick, but he took the initiative to post it here, and that's what's important.
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#51 |
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Member (3 bit)
Join Date: Oct 1999
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I havent tried this method yet (mainly cuz i dont want to screw anything up) so i've been using Winrescue 98 for that purpose. So Reboot, I was wondering how this manual way that you describe compares to Winrescue 98 in cleaning up the registry (using either their quick regpack or expanded regpack)? Thanks for any opinions!!
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#52 |
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Member (7 bit)
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 64
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reboot this is the greatest thing to come along since night baseball and the pill. Thank you.
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