It Is Over, Mr. Gore

[Kubie]

It is time now to concede. To go any further with your case will alienate you from your supporters. It is time to quit while you have some dignity left. Let the country get on with its business without your interferance.
I'm sure the Chinese will be disappointed knowing they will not get the favors they want.
Clinton and his cronies will have to deal with their problems all on their own without the possibilty of a pardon.
So Mr. Gore, please concede. Do the country a favor for a change.

[LawyerRon]

I would agree with you Carl, except for one point:
This is the outcome Hillary wanted all along. She's set to run in 4 yrs.

[Kubie]

Ah yes, Ron. There no is honor among the democrats. I believe Bush will do a good job and will get a second term.
I just don't believe Hillary would be elected.
Ron, now that the USSC gave the case back to the Fla. SC, I do believe they may rethink their first decision. I don't think they like the USSC looking over their shoulder. Looks like they will have to perform their duties as judges and not as the democrats they are.

[troysvihl]

No, by all means Gore, keep whinning. The more we hear him whine this year, the less of a chance we'll have to put up with his winning 4 years from now.



>>This is the outcome Hillary wanted all along. She's set to run in 4 yrs.<<

You really think so lawyerRon? I highly doubt she's going to run.

Although, I certainly hope she does considering that fourty-some percent of the voters in NY wouldn't vote for her. (NY of all places) Since Lazio basically had nothing to offer besides the fact he's not Hillary, I would say that her odds of winning the presidency were very low. If that many people will vote for her competitor just to vote against her, then any clown with a half-decent platform should be able to handily defeat her.

[SARGE]

She's mean. Most women wouldn't vote for her, except the femi-nazis. Most men can't stand her. Case closed.

[stylin19]

Rumor Central: ( for what it's worth )

Clinton's supposedly have had their house up for sale, 3 days after Hillary won.

here's the original gossip article that started it:

'FOR SALE ' SIGN AT CHAPPAQUA?
THE gossip among political insiders at last night's Kennedy Center Honors gala and at the White House reception beforehand was that Bill and Hillary Clinton are putting their "home" in Chappaqua on the market less than a year after their much-ballyhooed arrival in the leafy Westchester environs.

I hear that the Clintons never even got around to having "hard-wired" security installed because they wouldn't be there long. If all this is true (and remember, this is a GOSSIP column - I can only tell you what people are whispering behind their hands) then it will be an act of incredible cynicism, even for a couple as calculating as are these two.

You buy a suburban mansion for $1.9 million so that senatorial candidate Hillary can establish that she does, indeed, intend to be a REAL New Yorker, a friend to the soccer moms, as opposed to being a stateless opportunist squatting in some anonymous Manhattan apartment.

Then you get elected, find a place in D.C. and shake the dust of Chappaqua off your sensible flatshoes. And, as a bonus, one of your well-heeled pals buys the mansion at a huge premium, giving you a fat profit. (Even a stranger would pay a bonus to boast that he lives in a house once - albeit briefly - occupied by the first family.)

Some of us have said all along that Bill would never be happy playing house husband in the 'burbs when he leaves the White House. Manhattan is where the action, money and power reside, which is why (as I was the first to tell you) he and Hillary have been hunting for an apartment here.

I read where Bill says he couldn't afford to be mayor here. The windfall if the Clintons do sell Chappaqua would help ease their debts, and his first book of memoirs, with a floor price of $7 million, would have them out of the financial woods.

(I'm now told the book deal is being brokered by Bob Barnett, of the powerful Washington legal firm Williams & Connolly. This is the same guy who made Bob Woodward the richest working journalist in the land and handled the memoirs of ex-White House flack Marlon Fitzwater.)

[mairving]

I think that I can hear Oprah Winfrey singing(don't make me explain that one). Next step for Gore is to try and get the whole state of Florida's election results thrown out.

Hillary in 2004 is a near certainty. She will try her best to make a name for herself in the Senate. She is mean but she has learned a lot from the past 8yrs about how to get and stay elected. It will be the economy stupid. If the economy takes a downturn under Bush, people will be ready for a change. Who better to do it than the wife of the one who gave us 8yrs of prosperity. I would prefer Gore and even Bill himself rather than Hillary. Tis a scary thought. Here is an article from the Washington Times: http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/ed-co...1128193521.htm

[bdunn]

Actually the only legal case that seems to have any merit, on either side, hasn't been heard yet. Its the one that may disqualify all the absentee ballots in Semiole couty. If this happens Gore will wi by about 13000 votes.

[bob]

I hope Gore fights to the last. I love watching Bush pretend to be president - he needs all the practice he can get.

[w1che]

I love to hear you Liberals cry. That's why I want Gore to keep showing his true colors.

Hillary could never win... Now you talk about something that would get people to the polls. She would get them out of the house to vote for anyone but her.

Gore is down for the count. The supreme court of Florida will not be able to come up with a way to steal it for Gore now. To many people watching!!!

[clydefo]

Ain’t it strange how often the conventional wisdom turns out to be wrong?

[SARGE]

Warning signs are on the horizon about the economy. If Bush finally gets the job, and the economy does in fact hit a recession, watch the Dems holler, "See, we told you - the economy was great before he took office". Sadly, most idiots would fall for that, as they have no time to find the facts. The news is already talking about the warning signs for a recession. Good timing, huh?

[troysvihl]

just like when people give credit to clinton for the economy even though this economy has been growing pretty much constantly since 82.

clinton takes office, impliments a new way to calculate inflation and the jobless rate, and viola, he gets to take off a few percetage points from those figures. same economy, slightly lower jobless and inflation numbers

but don't worry sarge. that tax cut should help. after all, this economy is founded on the tax cuts of 82. it's all about increasing freedom, not limiting it. hopefully bush knows that and won't impliment any new regulations or rules. it's time to tear the rules down, not make new ones.

[Edited by troysvihl on 12-06-2000 at 04:05 AM]

[bob]

Already making excuses for the economy under Bush? You all must remember Regan and daddy Bush.

It will take him 4 years to mess up the economy.

Buy inflation positive investments like property.

Greenspan has already given up on trying to slow inflation - he is resigned to it - it comes with a republican administration like white on rice.

[Kubie]

Since you're making alot of money bob, why don't you take a big tax deduction by contributing to organizations that help the homeless. After all, Clinton and Gore didn't for a long eight years. Oh, that's right, they did help if you can count lip service.

[troysvihl]

or better yet bob, make the donation and refuse the tax write-off. that way, you won't be "greedy" by taking money away from the government. remember, that money is rightfully the government's

[LawyerRon]

bob,
I assume you studied economics in college. You should therefore know and understand the basic "economic cycle". History shows our economy goes into a recession to some degree about every 9 or 10 years. The President has very little control over this cycle. The President, who ever he/she is, gets too much credit when times are good, and too much blame when times are bad. What concerns me more than economics bob, is when my President appears on TV and I want to puke every time I see his or his dumbass wife's face.

[SARGE]

And the preacher said, "AMEN".

[Kubie]

Boy Ron, something said musta rattled your cage or pulled your chain. I fell off my chair LOL when I read your comment.

[troysvihl]

it's funny because it's true

[bob]

Originally posted by Carlgif Since you're making alot of money bob, why don't you take a big tax deduction by contributing to organizations that help the homeless. After all, Clinton and Gore didn't for a long eight years. Oh, that's right, they did help if you can count lip service.

I actually have a guest houst that I let a senoir citizen use - he gets only $500 per month SS + other.

[bob]

Originally posted by LawyerRon bob, I assume you studied economics in college. You should therefore know and understand the basic "economic cycle". History shows our economy goes into a recession to some degree about every 9 or 10 years. The President has very little control over this cycle. The President, who ever he/she is, gets too much credit when times are good, and too much blame when times are bad. What concerns me more than economics bob, is when my President appears on TV and I want to puke every time I see his or his dumbass wife's face.

Greenspan manages the cycles with interest rates. I assume you are studing the cycles as we speak?

Bush wants a full capital push to stimulate the economy. Greanspan wants to slow the economy to keep it from growing to fast - Who is right?

When they finnaly let Bush talk you will see how stupid he really is - that is I think you will.

[LawyerRon]

bob,
Quote:
"Greenspan manages the cycles with interest rates".

That's an opinion bob, not a fact. Further, the control over interest rates is only one "factor" in the economic cycle. Surely you're not suggesting Mr. Greenspan "controls" the economic cycle.

By the way, I hope we don't loose Mr. Greenspan any time soon as he's done a fine job.

[troysvihl]

letting people keep more of their own money is never a bad thing

[w1che]

Greenspan was appointed by Daddy Bush & just reappointed by Clinton. Greenspan killed the stock market because he said there were to many people that thought they were rich. That will cause inflation. That is why you have the up & down cycle because you have to keep the middle class in their place so they don't spend to much. You want to try to have them spend just enough but not to much & that is very hard to control.

[bob]

Originally posted by LawyerRon bob, Surely you're not suggesting Mr. Greenspan "controls" the economic cycle.

Yes I am....And please stop calling me Surely

http://www.thetopnotch.com/greenspan/index2.html

[keithr]

I 'gotta go along with Bob on this one. (Now there's a first) Greenspan is probably the most powerful unelected official in the United States. I feel he has entirely too much clout!

Keith

[troysvihl]

keither keep in mind the benefits a government gets when inflation is high. (as do all debtors) a public federal bank has an interest in sustained inflation.

i for one, don't think the money supply should be taken care of by the private market.

[troysvihl]

whoops, said the exact opposite of what I intended. I think the money supply should be privatized

[UncaDanno]

Take a look at the charter of the Federal Reserve Board...


It IS a private company. Or, rather, a group of privately-owned banks.