Clintonites Trash White House

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Check it out at: http://drudgereport.com/wh93a.htm

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The Clintons true nature has been revealed by their actions in their final days in office. Finally even some of the democrats are starting to see the real Bill Clinton. To bad it took so long.

[River~]

What is described in the report is not uncommon among our nations best/worst(?) when one party, the Deomcrates, leave office, and another party, the Republicans, enter office. This sort of prankish behavior is common in city, county, as well as state offices.

Some people might take it too far, but then others also complain too much about something that they might find offensive, yet turn around and do the same thing in four years when the Democrates move back in to the office.

As with some other things that the Bush administration has reported on (leaked?) it is also very possible that this is being hyped up more than what it actually is. There is also the possibility that Bush supporters, realizing that a certain amount of prankish behavior was going to take place with the outgoing Democrates, that they "planted" some of the offensive material themselves, just to make it appear that the work was done by the Democrates, in order to disgrace them.

How one feels about one political party or the other can and does have a great impact on what they believe and what they don't believe.

Take a look at your own beliefs, attitudes and thoughts pertaining to the political party you do not like. How were your beliefs formed? From misinformation, from something you read, saw or heard that was incorrect, outdated or biased?

Did Bush really snort coke, and just how ugly of a drunk was he? I imagine you could find all sorts of reports and such about this subject. Or how about how his daddy made sure that he didn't go to Nam, instead getting enrolled in a prestigious military school long enough to avoid going?

The next time you watch Bush give a speech, count how many times he gets that *&$% eating grin on his face and his lips get so thin you can hardly see them, and his eyes turn a little beedy. The number of times this happens just might coincide with the number of times he isn't telling the truth!

Wait! Where did I get that from? Was it from an incorrect belief about Bush? About the Republicans?

So it's not ok for some Clintonites to prank the White House, but it is ok for Bush to smile that sadistic smile he has when he talks about putting people to death in Texas?

By the way, I am for the death penalty IF DNA proves that this particular person did the killing.

thoughts~

[LawyerRon]

In our legal system, the "weight" given to any evidence is determined by a jury.

Therefore, DNA cannot prove anything if the jury chooses to disregard the DNA evidence.

Eg: In they OJ trial, for various reasons, the jury "chose" to give the DNA evidence very little weight.

[mairving]

Well, I guess that your theory is "it's okay because Bush has a funny grin on his face." Give me a break. Not only are some of these actions childish, they are potentially criminal as well. But I guess that's okay because Bush grins and as governor followed the law and executed killers. I guess that it is okay that money is accepted from the Chinese government by the dems. It is okay because Bush has a grin on his face and someone thinks he's lying. What lies has he told. What proof is their of his lies. If there was proof, it would have been dug up by now.

You can never excuse illegal actions because you like the guy or because you agree with him. That, my friend, is the problem.

[River~]

my previous post on this subject was meant to be satirical, but as are the facts(?) or thoughts(?) pertaining to this subject thread, my intent was misperceived.

if only a handful of us were to continue to post to this thread, about all of the "this is what I heard" "this is what they have said" about either Bush, Clinton or anyone else, we would overtax the site and it would probably shut down.

to make my point in as short of a statement, and as clear as possible, let me say this.

"What one believes is usually based on what they have heard, what they have read or what they have been told. All of which has the possibility of not being true. This is because what you heard might have come from someone who didn't have their facts right. What you read might have been written by someone who also didn't have the facts right, and possibly on purpose. I usually only believe what facts prove to me.

How can one be sure that the facts are accurate? One way is to be there in person, first hand eye witness. Anything else is subject to someone elses beliefs on what they think you should know.

[LawyerRon]

I agree River.

[bob]

I did it. Took the dubyas off the keyboards and ... well enough said.

I would do it again

signed Al Gore

It is just to funny.

[River~]

Is that why when George heard about the keys being gone that he demanded to see for himself.

When he entered one of the large rooms filled with computers, and as he was being lead over to one, he is saying to himself, "Lets see, the dubya keys have been taken off. How do you spell that? Lets see, d-u-b-y-a. Yept that's it, starts with a "d." How does that make any sense" as he scratches his head and smiles at everyone with those tight lips and beedy little eyes.
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you're right, this is way too funny!

[Edited by River~ on 01-25-2001 at 09:29 PM]

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...5/165244.shtml

Yes another news service has it.

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I am amazed that there are those who can still manage to make excuses for the dispicable behavior of the Clinton people. In my opinion their actions just show the lack of esteem they held for the presidency, the "icing on the rotten cake" of the last 8 years.

[troysvihl]

>>How can one be sure that the facts are accurate? One way is to be there in person, first hand eye witness. Anything else is subject to someone elses beliefs on what they think you should know.<<


So basically, you don't believe anything unless you see it for yourself?

[waiting]

Hi troysvihl----the story is everywhere. All the news services can't be wrong.....theres got to be some truth in it.......Even the liberals are discussing it.
Have your turned on your radio lately? All liberals do not have their heads in the sand....

[River~]

Literally, don't misunderstand what I said.

"No, I don't have to see first hand everything to believe it." If someone told me that I shouldn't go swimming off of a particular beach in Australia because there were many blue ringed octopuses there, then I wouldn't have to see them to decide not to go in the water.

But when you are talking about the political arena for example, you are talking about something totally different, something that, at least for me, requires more than just a newspaper report or a journalist saying so on tv. It's kind of like the weathermen, I'll believe it won't rain tomorrow when the day is over and no rain has fallen.

I am not doubting that the white house was trashed to some degree or the other. I am not doubting that the democrates had something to do with most of the trashing, and very possibly all of the trashing.

What I am saying is that it is highly probable that some Republicans added to the trashing, to slander the Democratic party even more. The political arena is just that, an "arena" ( a place for sporting events and spectacles)...that in and of it's self should tell you something.

Neither party here is innocent of slandering. Never has been, never will be, it is second nature among humans, and common behavior among politicians; republican, democrate, right wing, left wingers, middle of the fence, libertarians, greens, you name it.

What does amaze me is the fact that the Clinton administration will have a hard time going down in history for all that they did do for not only Americans, but also people of other parts of the world. Instead they will be remembered for being sex addicts who pull pranks. I can think of a lot worse, and who knows, in just less than four years we might have the answer to that.

Lets see what this forum has to say in 4 years about the republicans leaving office.

By the way, you do remember Water Gate? white house taped conversations? blank spots in the tapes? the Iran arms sale, Nancy running the country while Ronnie suffered from alzheimer? and how neither Nixon or Regan(all republicans)knew anything about it, right? RIGHT!

The president is nothing more than the figure head of the corporation(s) that put him in office. Check out the campaign financing and see where the big dollars are coming from, see what is on the agenda in Congress, and you know who is really running the country, it is not who you think it is.

That, of and by it's self should be a disgrace to every single red blooded American, regardless of your political affiliation.

just more thoughts~

[Edited by River~ on 01-26-2001 at 06:41 PM]

[River~]

Spent the last hour looking at various web sights, through Google search engine, by typing in "Bush lobbying money" or "Microsoft Bush Lobbying Money" or any other Bush related search line.

One of which I am putting the link to here, as it discusses how George Sr., and his three sons went to Kuwait after Clinton took over the white house and how the Bush's were rewarded for engineering the war with Saddam, by lying to Saddam about U.S. not intervening if there were to be a war. This was all masterminded by George and the boys, for the purpose of filling their pockets and their off shore bank accounts with Kuwait money.

Check it out here: http://www.spotlight.org/Links/Bush/bush.html

But then again can you believe everything that you read?

Or how about the Microsoft money for lobbying, think that might help overturn the ruling against Bill and boys in Washington?

Or how about the drug companys and their lobbying money, or the fact that the woman Bush appointed to head health and drugs also works for a drug company. and that Bush has or is going to reverse an earlier Clinton aid package that would allow countrys in Africa to manufacture generic aids/hiv medicine so they can stop 24 million people from dying, but Bush will reverse this, making it necessary for anyone who needs aids/hiv medicine to pay the high costs from the drug lobbying companys who are in his pocket.

But then this is only if you believe what you read? RIGHT!

just more thoughts.......but you can check it all out by searching these things out with your computer, you might be surprised where Bush got all his money (over 16 million that is reported) but there is also reports that there is more than that in the Cayman Islands.

Do you believe Gen. Schwartzkopf? He was also offered around 150 million dollars by the Kuwaits during this same money scheme the Bush's were involved in, he refused it.