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Old 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM   #1
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system upgrade

With Windows 7 and Intel's new i7 Chipset coming out, I'm thinking of ugrading the guts of my current gaming system. Here's what I'm looking to do:

MoBo - Asus x58 Rampage II Extreme - $359.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131352

CPU - Intel Corre I7 860 - $289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214

GPU - Asus Radeon 5870 - $379.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=asus%205870

RAM - Corsair 3 x 2 Gig DDR3 1600MHz - $154.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145242

PSU - Corsair 750W (not sure if i should to with this or the 1k watt unit)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139010

I'll recycle my case Antec 900, keyboard, two seagate SATA 500gb HD's etc.

Any thoughts on this? I never know if I have the right memory etc so I'm open to suggestions. Also, the new i7 and 5870 graphics cards seem to draw less wattage. Since I'm not going to OC will the PSU I chose be enough or should I go with a 1k watt PSU?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:53 AM   #2
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That's not an upgrade, that's a new computer.

Just curious, which HD, optical drive and case are you using?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:58 AM   #3
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Antec 900 case
Lite-on DVD optical drive
Two Seagate 500GB SATA HD's

All of these are about 2 years old but working fine.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:07 PM   #4
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Looks like a good rig to me. Excellent hardware choice.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:12 PM   #5
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One MAJOR problem - you have picked a socket 1366 motherboard and a socket 1156 processor!

I would stick with that processor, and save MAJOR bucks - use an Asus P7P55D motherboard. That will take ram in pairs, not triples.
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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[quote=Svaneyk;1439500]With Windows 7 and Intel's new i7 Chipset coming out, I'm thinking of ugrading the guts of my current gaming system. Here's what I'm looking to do:

ASUS P7P55D EVO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $189.99
Xtreme Design w/ SLI+CrossfireX, 12+2 power phase/T.Probe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131407

CPU - Intel Corre I7 860 - $289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214

GPU - Asus Radeon 5870 - $379.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=asus%205870

RAM - Corsair 4 x 2 Gig DDR3 1600MHz - $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145261

PSU - Corsair 750W (not sure if i should to with this or the 1k watt unit)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139010

I'll recycle my case Antec 900, keyboard, two seagate SATA 500gb HD's etc.

Ok I updated the MB and RAM, I was concerned that this might be an issue. Also, there are several varients of this board. I'm not sure if they all work with the i7 860 or not.

Is the PSU enough, in your opinion or should I go with the 1KW PSU?
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:21 PM   #7
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750 watts is enough to power any single video card on the planet. Make SURE that ram is on the Asus QVL for that board and approved for all 4 slots. Pick the version of the board for features you want, do not assume that you need to buy a more expensive board for the computer to work better. If you will never use dual video cards, the base P7P55D will work just as well as the expensive one.
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:50 PM   #8
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So a quick question on the MB. I'm looking over the various options and notice the one board with full SATA III @ 6GB. I'm assuming this is the latest and greatest for SATA connections. Is there any reason to spend the extra money on it or should I not bother?
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:53 PM   #9
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The only reason would be for future upgrades. Even current SSDs can't saturate SATA 3Gb/s yet.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:26 PM   #10
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I went onto the ASUS website and did a compare of the MB's currently available for the P55 chipset. These two stood out for a lot of features that they offer. I primarily use this machine for gaming. i doubt I'll go dual gpu but it seems to be almost a standard with boards that have a lot of gaming performance features.

P7p55D premium

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131598

ASUS Maximus III

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131482

I'm leaning toward the Maximus as it seems to have some unique AI for making sure your system is tuned properly. However, I wanted to see if anyone has any experience with either of these boards and could make a recommendation.

Looking at the QVL, looks like both of these boards take 3 stick memory kits.

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Old 10-07-2009, 06:38 PM   #11
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The Maximus boards are very fussy. They are designed for hardcore tweakers. If you are not going to overclock, they are a waste.

The QVL may indicate that, but they do not. I noticed that the other day too. The P55 chipset only supports dual channel. Look at the dual kits.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:16 AM   #12
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This looks to be the only Corsair 1600MHz RAM that is not a 3 stick kit listed on the QVL for the P7p55D premium:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131598

So, if that's the case and the Maximus III being finicky, I'll go with the P7P55D Premium MB and 2 sets of the above for a total of 8GB. Before I pull the trigger and make the purchase someone please double check the RAM to make sure I didn't misread this somehow. If if looks good, I'll pull the trigger and let you know how the build performs in short order.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:43 AM   #13
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That link is for the motherboard, not the ram.

If you are not overclocking, DDR3-1600 is a waste, it will only run at 1333. You might want to look at the QVL for 1333, there's a better selection and it's cheaper.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:52 AM   #14
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That link is for the motherboard, not the ram.

If you are not overclocking, DDR3-1600 is a waste, it will only run at 1333. You might want to look at the QVL for 1333, there's a better selection and it's cheaper.


Ok so taking your advice, I looked at the 1333 RAM. After some research it looked like G.Skill had a better product and for less money than Corsair.

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK - Retail $84

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231189


If this looks right to you then I'll pull the trigger and get on with the upgrade. Thanks so much for all the help.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:04 PM   #15
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Very good choice - it will run at 1333 and CAS 8 with all 4 slots filled, and it's low voltage ram.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:22 AM   #16
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Put all the components together today and I seem to be having a graphics card issue with the 5870. All I get is a black screen and the card is very, very loud (not sure if this is normal or not). I checked all the connections including ensuring a solid connection to both of the power supply jacks. The red led light on the MB seems to indicate however that there is a problem at that point. Any thoughts before I return the card for a replacement?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:10 PM   #18
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Heh, ok you convinced me glc. I've always freaked out about the "build outside the box" direction thinking that for sure I'd zap the board or some other electronic component. As I was at an impass, I yanked all the guts out and put it back together outside the box as instructed. Sure enough, one of the two PSU cables going to the graphics card was not seated properly. I seated it, jumped the boards pwr pins with my screw driver and viola it ran. Knowing that all these components were working properly made it easy to troubleshoot that the power switch on the Antec 900 case was defective. So now I'm waiting on Newegg to get my new case to me via RMA.
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I follow that procedure with every single system I build.
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