Hard hitting message for youngsters..

[rjfvillarosa]

To me this film should be required viewing for all high school kids.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/8334389.stm

*warning* some of the scenes are a bit gruesome.

[HAL9000]

My daughter is in high school and was shown that video... I agree that everyone should see it... although, like drinking and driving, I'm doubting it will have much impact to the "it won't happen to me" society. People have to stop and actually think... this is what may happen and when it does, my planned day of fun has now become "this"... and "this" may last days, weeks, or years.

[David M]

Good! When in high school in my drivers ed class we were shown a film called Red Asphalt which was far more gruesome than that. It showed the horrible results of real car accidents. I don't think this film is real enough or gruesome enough. If new drivers are not at the point of almost vomiting after seeing a film about car wrecks, then it is not good enough.

No, it will not stop all teenage accidents due to immaturity, inexperience or drinking behind the wheel, but it certainly is better than nothing.

Bring on the horror and the reality...make it worse than the scariest horror movies. If a teenager does not want to learn about reality of car accidents or killing someone else, then don't drive. The quicker a teenager learns that they are not immortal, the better off everyone will be.

[doubledragon5]

Originally Posted by David M

Good! When in high school in my drivers ed class we were shown a film called Red Asphalt which was far more gruesome than that. It showed the horrible results of real car accidents. I don't think this film is real enough or gruesome enough. If new drivers are not at the point of almost vomiting after seeing a film about car wrecks, then it is not good enough.

No, it will not stop all teenage accidents due to immaturity, inexperience or drinking behind the wheel, but it certainly is better than nothing.

Bring on the horror and the reality...make it worse than the scariest horror movies. If a teenager does not want to learn about reality of car accidents or killing someone else, then don't drive. The quicker a teenager learns that they are not immortal, the better off everyone will be.

When I was in drivers ed yrs ago, your right, the videos they showed of people after accidents was horrible.. I remember one, were they pulled a dude out of a car I say the picture was late 50's half the guys head was missing..

[HAL9000]

The video we had was pretty lame... they showed a "chest wound" that looked fake as it was, then it looked like a spit bubble coming from it... we laughed.

[Tin]

Over where I live, alot of the schools put a car on their lawn that was driven by a drunk driver. They usually do it a couple times a year, usually around prom or homecoming. The cars are pretty mangled looking too...like they started out at a demolition derby and finished up at the monster truck rally.

[HAL9000]

They do that at my daughter's high school as well... I have to wonder though, does it really do anything with teens. When you're a teen, you go through an "indestructable" phase... it won't happen to you. On a positive note, last night I was pulled over in a spot check.. and for once, they weren't selecting cars, they weren't grabbing cars until the lane was full and letting the rest through, they didn't have the flashers going in the middle of the street to warn you.. you saw the pylons first and thought, how big of a hole is the city making now.. then, when you had nowhere to go... you realized it was a spot check and EVERYONE was being checked.

[Tin]

Originally Posted by HAL9000

When you're a teen, you go through an "indestructable" phase... it won't happen to you.

As of late, I dont even really think its a teen thing anymore. Alot of people get that indestructible mentality into their early 20s so it seems.

[XenaWP]

Originally Posted by Tin

As of late, I dont even really think its a teen thing anymore. Alot of people get that indestructible mentality into their early 20s so it seems.

Or 40s ....

Witness the number of people who don't get vaccinations because 'I've never gotten ________ and I've never been vaccinated."

Or who don't get recommended screening tests because they "feel fine."

We are all indestructible ... until something strikes us. Then we know the truth. No one has a "great immune system." No one has "great genes." They just have great luck, at least until they don't.

[David M]

Because something is a partial solution and not a perfect solution does not mean it is completely worthless. Its the case here that something is better than nothing. If it "only" saves one teenagers life then is it worthless? The judgment of value needs to be between one and zero, and not between zero and some higher number. Yes, most everyone goes through an immortal stage in life..does that mean we just throw up our hands and give up?

[HAL9000]

Originally Posted by David M

Yes, most everyone goes through an immortal stage in life..does that mean we just throw up our hands and give up?

Part of me says yes.. let nature take its course and eleminate these idiots... the only problem with that theory, it often takes the innocent with them.

[doubledragon5]

Originally Posted by XenaWP

Or 40s ....

Witness the number of people who don't get vaccinations because 'I've never gotten ________ and I've never been vaccinated."

Or who don't get recommended screening tests because they "feel fine."

We are all indestructible ... until something strikes us. Then we know the truth. No one has a "great immune system." No one has "great genes." They just have great luck, at least until they don't.

A little off topic, but I nver had the flu shot, and only had the flu twice in 20yrs, and wasn't real bad either.. I have know more people to get sick after having the flu shot, the people who haven't. I will never get one if I can help it..

[Tin]

Originally Posted by doubledragon5

A little off topic, but I nver had the flu shot, and only had the flu twice in 20yrs, and wasn't real bad either.. I have know more people to get sick after having the flu shot, the people who haven't. I will never get one if I can help it..

Amen to that. Ive had the flu twice in the last 16 years, and havent had a flu shot in 25 years.

[David M]

Originally Posted by HAL9000

Part of me says yes.. let nature take its course and eleminate these idiots... the only problem with that theory, it often takes the innocent with them.

The problem is some of these "idiots" are our own sons and daughters.

[HAL9000]

I really hope I'm eliminating my daughter from being one of those idiots... from a young age, I have taught her, no matter what, no ifs ands or buts, if you need a ride home due to alcohol, call, no lectures, no questions... and yes, I practice what I preach... 1 drink, I don't drive for the rest of the day/night. If I go out with friends and I know I'm going to be drinking, I get a ride there and I get picked up.

Last year, at the beginning of the school year, we had 3 out of four kids die to a drinking and driving / excessive speed accident just a matter of blocks from here... people still go pin flowers to the tree that they hit.. the car was torn to sheds, the engine was over 100 feet away from the vehicle, the transimission about the middle between the two.

About 4 years ago, twin daughters that lived across the street from us, out on New Years Eve, both killed by a drunk driver, although, I suspect they weren't too innocent themselves.

So in short, my daughter has seen what happens and will HOPEFULLY take the right path. As for texting and driving... I've already told her... if I EVER catch her at that, whether it be first hand or from somebody informing me... I will give her the choice, she loses the cell or the car.. if she can't decide, I'm making the decision... and she knows my decision will be that both are gone. She even tried to get smart with me and asked what if she owned both the car and the cell... I said a hammer will take care of the cell and I can disable a car really fast.

[David M]

I'm sorry to hear about those teens dieing...its always so tragic when young people die. It sounds like you are a really good dad Dave. Good ideas. I have a son who is 15.

[glc]

She even tried to get smart with me and asked what if she owned both the car and the cell

I dunno what the laws are there, but here you can't "own" a car till you are 18.

[HAL9000]

Here, you can own a car before you have a drivers license.

Originally Posted by David M

I'm sorry to hear about those teens dieing...its always so tragic when young people die. It sounds like you are a really good dad Dave. Good ideas. I have a son who is 15.

Thanks David... I give her a LOT of freedom, but there are also very defined boundries... very clear and concise rules... you want to keep the freedom, stay within the rules.. simple as that.

She also knows, if you catch me doing wrong.. SPEAK UP!... I may not even realize I'm doing it. I had a really bad swearing habit from a previous job... now working a call center cleared that up at work, but it was still bad at home.. thanks to her, she speaks up when I do it and that's just it, most of the time, I don't realize it... but it's cutting down the habit.. so fair is fair.