Photo Shop

[Tregrad]

does anyone know how to put 2 photos together with Photo SHop, I have panoramic pictures of Lake Tahoe and want to splice them together. I have Photo Shop 7 but cant for the life of me figure out how to do it.

[kram 2.0]

How to put two picture together? As in cut a single picture and insert another image over it? Just open the two image files and drag and drop it into one canvas - you'll have two layers. The first image and the second image. From there, you can do many things - reduce opacity, cut, etc.

kram

[Tregrad]

ok but how, I am pretty new at this so do i have to make a new canvas and how big do i have to make it? and I can just drag and drop images into it? do i have to open the files or just drag them into it....Im lost

[TwoRails]

Hi agin Tregrad

I was surprised I didn't find anything at Adobe's site, but after some googling, I did fing this:

http://www.planetphotoshop.com/tutorials/jim18.html

Hope it helps.

[Tregrad]

Hey Two Rails,
Thats exactly what im trying to do but that tutorial is kinda vaig in its self. He talks about following the steps in the pano but where are they? lol. I searched for a long time today in tutorials and came up with nothing at all.
I just cant figure out how to make a canvas and put two pictures in it and move them around within it, think im gonna pop soon.

[TwoRails]

Sorry, but as I mentioned in the other thread, I'm clueless myself. I found this:

http://studio.adobe.com/us/tips/tip....ml=phs8ttmerge

but can't get it open. Tried several times but got the server not found messages, then I tried again and it wanted a logon (!??!). Maybe you'll have better luck. It's suppose to be Adobe's tutor on panoramas.

[Tregrad]

even better, here are some free ware programs that do Panoramas, dont know how good they are but atleast they mention the word "panorama" LOL Photo Shop dosent help at all.

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-a....y=0&submit=GO

[TwoRails]

I'll check it out, as all of a sudden, I want to make some panoramas

[Tregrad]

cool when you figure it out let me know and vise versa LOL. I have alot of cool panorama pics of Tahoe, I work up there so I bring my camera with me alot and take pictures all the time of the Sierra mountains and such. Goit some real good ones of the recent snows.

[kram 2.0]

I get what you mean now. Open up the image files you have that will become the panorama picture. Take one of the windows that has one of the images and expand the canvas so that your horizontal size is doubled - so if your image size is 800x600, you want to expand the canvas horizontally to 1600x600. Then, go to the other image windows and literally drag it into the image with expanded canvas size. Then, move it around until you have a perfect fit - you may need to zoom in to 200% to perfectly align the two images so that they make a panorama.

Hope that helps (and if it doesn't, ask for clarification)
kram

[Tregrad]

ok, got both pics open and the canvas made to bouble the size (width) now my picture is smak dab in the middle of a black background. I cant drag the other pic into it because when i put my cursor over it and try to drag it, all it does is make that dotted rectangular box. It dosent drag anything. I have copied and pasted it into the bigger canvas but then i cant move it around. This is frustrating and thanks again for youre help

[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tregrad ok, got both pics open and the canvas made to bouble the size (width) now my picture is smak dab in the middle of a black background. I cant drag the other pic into it because when i put my cursor over it and try to drag it, all it does is make that dotted rectangular box. It dosent drag anything. I have copied and pasted it into the bigger canvas but then i cant move it around. This is frustrating and thanks again for youre help

You need to use the drag tool when you are dragging from one window to another. See attatched picture - I circled it in Red

kram

[Tregrad]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Rock on Kram, once again you guys rule, did you get this Two Rails? I will put them together and post them.

[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tregrad Rock on Kram, once again you guys rule, did you get this Two Rails? I will put them together and post them.

Glad you figured it out .

kram

[Tregrad]

Im a genius I tell ya.

One more thing while i got ya here......how do I make both pics the same color, you know when you take two pics they are always a shade or two different from each other? can you blend them together?

And dont tell me its the "blend" tool LOL

[Tregrad]

nm figured this one out on my own......its just the genius in me

How do i attach a image in here and i will show you the pics?

[kram 2.0]

Use the Post Reply button on the lower left hand corner of this post or the upper left hand corner of this thread. Go to manage attatchments, then link to the file.

kram

[Mac Medic]

file / automate / photomerge. It's built right in.

[Tregrad]

Photomerge isnt in "automate" but there are acouple "merge's" under "Layer" is that what you mean?

[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tregrad Photomerge isnt in "automate" but there are acouple "merge's" under "Layer" is that what you mean?

That's different - that combines the two images and practically "glues them together" - making two layers into one.

kram

[Mac Medic]

Sorry, My mistake, it's only in Photoshop CS & Photoshop elements, Not photoshop 7.

[Tregrad]

Originally Posted by kram8806 That's different - that combines the two images and practically "glues them together" - making two layers into one. kram

Now I have two pics and one is a diferent "tone" if you will, I have tried to match them up but when i was taking the pics one must have had more light in the lense than the other. Is there a way to make them both the same so the sky is the same color and the lake and the trees?

[TwoRails]

Don't have any easy answers, Tregrad. The only way I know of is to just play around and do color, and other image adjustments / "corrections."

[Tregrad]

TwoRails,
I have been messin with it for a while and found that you can "magic wand" a area and change it instead of the whole picture. In my picture i have sky, Lake and Pine trees. I adjusted the trees the water and then the sky and it came up pretty good, could still use some tweekin tho. Just thought I would let you know.

[TwoRails]

Good tip, Tregrad. That's a very handy feature that PSP also has.... one that I wish I had figured out long before I did.

(not to start anything, but you'll know what I mean: I still think that PS, PSP, and other complicated programs are just like word processors: they have ton's of features that people have to learn and figure out, often not finding them [the features] until there is a need for it.)

[Tregrad]

Yeah i know what you mean but thats how it goes sometimes, no harm no foul. Heck, I have been using Quick Books for my business for 5 years now and I still dont know half of it LOL my brother didnt even know that if you hit the "end" key that it takes the cursor to the end of the sentence your typing.
but anyway, I got to using ps and you can be in that thing for hours if your not carefull.
How much is PSP anyway? if its any easier maybe i will go get it.
If you come with more tricks to "feather" two pics together they would be helpfull. It still isnt perfect and I get all anal about stuff like that.

[glc]

Paint Shop Pro is currently on sale - $95 for a direct download, $103 boxed. You can download a free trial.

They even offer free phone support (not toll-free, though) M-F 8-5 CST.

[TwoRails]

Hi Tregrad,

Ya, it's easy to get lost in your work for hours. I've seen PSP for $59 on sale with rebates if you keep your eyes open. (But now that Corel took them over, I don't know how any sales will go...)

Sorry, don't really have any tricks for you on stiching photos together. PSP and PS are probably pretty close in that aspect, but I've never done it in PSP. I'm going back on 13 hour days at work starting Monday, so I won't be able to play much with it, either

PS probably has this too, but in PSP you can actually set the amout of feathering and anti-aliasing (amoung other things) for your selections. I know when I take just a part of one photo and stick it into another, I feather the edges for a cleaner looking result.

I'll pop in when I can. Good luck!

[TwoRails]

Well, for giggles I figure I'd check out PSP stitch / panoramic features... And they are sorely lacking. I couldn't find anything in Help Topics. I did a "search" and found this:

Take a series of photographs with overlapping subject matter, then stitch the photographs together using layers. Create an image with a canvas large enough to display the panorama, then copy each photograph onto a separate layer. Decrease the opacity of one layer to see though it as you use the Move tool to match up the edges of the other photograph. Do this with each layer, then return the layers to 100 percent opacity.

That is the total help section for panorama. For such a powerful program, it's pretty weak in this area.