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Old 12-27-2005, 01:08 AM   #1
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Diskeeper Lite Defrag program.

Hi folks, have used diskeeper Lite for several months. I like it & haven't had any problems w/it. But I noticed when I upgraded my ram to 1024 Meg it shows a couple of red bands which means fragmented files.

When it runs it seems to run faster since the upgrade & still works fine as far as I can tell. But it didn't show the red bands before the upgrade. Should I be concerened about this? I am a worry-wart in some areas & computers is still one. Do I need to reset something or just use it as is? Thanks, RevCLB
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:18 AM   #2
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View the report and see what they are. It may be your pagefile. Upgrading the ram may have resized it and it's no longer contiguous.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:57 PM   #3
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Hi glc, Thanks for the input but am too ignorant to know what report you refer to. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks again, RevCLB
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:02 PM   #4
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When a defrag is completed one of the options on that window that pops up is the report.
It's nothing you have to do but click on it and read it occassionally.
The pagefile, also sometimes called the swapfile, is the block of space an OS reserves on a hard drive for use in swapping files when it's out of memory ( well it has other uses but you get the idea ) when you increased your memory to a gig Windows very likely changed the amount of hard drive space it used for the pagefile and the way it used it.
Since Windows takes a 'catch as catch can' approach to files on the hard drive that resulted in fragmented files (this would have happened eventually anyway as the install got older) turning up. Those are the red lines you were wondering about.
Next time you defragment, the green are the immovable files, the blue is for the contiguous ones and the red are the fragmented files.
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Thanks folks, will study this more. The program removes all the smaller red areas & show either 0fragments or 1 + some segments. The 2 Red bars are constant & haven't changed at all. Will check report & see what I can figure out.

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Hi folks, Went to report & got this info. Have to type it because don't understand screenshot & sending info that way.

Volume HP_Pavilion (C:
Volume size =32,462 MB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space =8,741 MB
Free space =23,720 MB
Percent free space = 73%

Fragmentation percentage
Volume fragmentation =3%
Data fragmentation =11%

File fragmentation
Total files =37,282
Average file size =229 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 1
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Paging file fragmentation
Paging/Swap file size = 1,522 MB
Total fragments = 1

Directory fragmentation
Total directories = 2,439
Fragmented directories = 0
Excess directory fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size =80,176 KB
MFT record count = 39,763
Percent MFT in use = 49 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

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Fragments File size Most fragmented files
2 1,015 MB \hiberfil.sys [Excluded]

Watched while typing & proof-read twice. Info is accurate, But doesn't mean much to me. Can you tell me what I'm dealing with here? Can I fix it or do I even need to? Thanks for your help past & future. RevCLB

edit: I don't understand how the smiley face got in there???

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Old 12-28-2005, 05:38 PM   #7
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There's nothing you need to fix, there's nothing that's wrong.
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There's nothing you need to fix, there's nothing that's wrong.
Thanks a bunch. Still have a lot to learn.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:11 PM   #9
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That's the hibernation file. If you never hibernate the computer, turn hibernation off in power options. That will get you a gig of hard drive space back too.
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That's the hibernation file. If you never hibernate the computer, turn hibernation off in power options. That will get you a gig of hard drive space back too.
Hey glc, WOW! BINGO! Just did this & it got rid of the red bars. Thanks a bunch. RevCLB
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:52 PM   #11
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I've seen XP's system restore also show up as red fragments in DKLite.
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pam123 is a computer professor, glc has so much knowledge. What do I study, where do I go to learn even part of what you 2 know??? RevCLB
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:24 PM   #13
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When I first got interested in how computers worked I found this site and spent a lot of time reading about the inner workings of computers. Some of the info might be outdated but most of the information is still worth knowing.

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Old 12-30-2005, 07:47 PM   #14
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Thanks cricket, you have helped me a lot. Thanks for this link. Am still praying for your Mom. RevCLB
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Cricket's PC Guide site is a good one.
Now-a-days I really like this one : http://www.extremetech.com/default/0,3971,,00.asp

A few magazine subscriptions are also a good idea and these guys are good : http://www.maximumpc.com/

And, not the least but often overlooked, the "...For Dummies" books are full of good basic operating system stuff that every owner should know. Just pick up the one for XP at the bookstore of your choice.
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Hi pam123, You & cricket have helped me a lot over the months. I have bookmarked both sites. As for the magizines, I'll have to see if I can afford them. I have 3 different books on "XP for Dummies & they all assume I know how to do the basics on a computer. I Don't. (Read my early posts) I value your your feedback to me but am not sure I can always follow it, or any that you Big Kids give me. I won't stop learning but it takes me a long time. Thanks to everyone on this site who has helped me. RevCLB
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Reclaim those college "search the index" text skills and the "XP For dummies" books will reveal treasures.
It's odd ( well no, but most people don't stop to consider ) but if you can remember what you did in the days of card catalogs a good deal of computer stuff starts to look obvious. It's an extension and an enrichement not a replacement.
When you get lost just remember the monster senior year term paper and break the steps down from there.
Don't get defrag?
Star witn the index in the "for dummies" book and then hit Google and keep spiraling.
It's the same deal you used when you had that sadistic history prof who worked you to death only now you get to take it at your own pace.

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Thanks pam 123, These forums & you people still amaze me. No judgement, just facts & encouragement. Only 1 year of college & it was a disaster. Have always loved libraries. Am 61 years old so do remember card catalogs.

Since joining these forums & following the advice (& links) you folks provide I am developing my research skills. Still don't know the right questions a lot of times but have learned, ask another question & get the guidance. You folks at PCMech are the college professors I couldn't learn from before because I can go at my own pace.

Thanks to each & everyone who has responded to my dumb questions. Thanks to each & everyone who asks questions I don't even know how to ask. Thanks to PCMech for allowing lurkers who need to just read for a long time in order to understand. Have a really good New Year!!!! RevCLB
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:53 AM   #19
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Rev, a BIG help is learn how to phrase a Google search. That's how I answer a majority of the questions I reply to here. There is no such thing as a dumb question, but there sure are a lot of dumb answers - mostly provided by people who don't research them and speak off the top of their heads without verifying their facts. It's not how much you know that counts - its the ability to research the correct answers that counts.
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I recommend this.
I call it "Get Down With Google" : http://www.googleguide.com/
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I recommend this.
I call it "Get Down With Google" : http://www.googleguide.com/
Thanks for this! I WILL use it. This is what I meant by you folks guiding me & providing valuable links. Some of the links are too hi-tech for me to understand yet. But if I learn how to ask the right questions I can learn. Thank you all

Edit: I don't want anyone to think I am responding just to get my post count up. It will be a LONG time before I can give anyone tech advice. Besides, I don't even know for sure what an Avatar is LOL RevCLB

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