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Old 02-18-2007, 05:35 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Boot Camp for Mac (duh)

OK so I recently got a Macbook 1.8ghz with 1gb of RAM. Personally I'm a PC user, more or less a Windows user. So I decided to try Boot Camp with Windows XP Pro (sp2) on Mac OSX 10.4.6

Installing of Boot Camp is easy, but I immediatly ran into a problem with the drivers disk (a must since mac hardware... windows... etc, they don't work unless you have drivers). It seems common that this problem occurs. Easy solution, you extract the Mac Drivers for Windows XP.exe and copy it either on a cd or a memory stick (that's what I did).

Now after you install boot camp (if you already extracted or have the drivers cd prior to installing you can click on already have it) it tells you to partition the harddrive (or you can have it on another hard drive if you are on a mac not a macbook) and u can choose the size by this scroll bar and adjust to what u want it to be, you need at least 10gb of space for it. after that it asks you to insert windows xp (vista works, i heard driver searching is a pain though), make sure is SP2. Then it restarts and windows pops up (after the blue screen setup) you choose the partition (which is C since you have to make sure you don't overwrite the mac os) and format it to FAT32 i think, tho you have the option of NTFS.

Now from there it's the usual windows installation and stuff...

after windows installs ( i didn't have any problems installing windows so i can't say any problems) the screen is a bit weird so you copy the driver exe, install that. and you're set.

i've installed a few things to see if it works, zonealarm, sword of the stars RTS game, and codecs for video viewing and they all work.

One problem that pops up a lot is my trackpad, (and also right click... if i plug in my USB mouse i'm fine) it does weird things and sometimes locks up on right click and the trackpad stops responding... but then again this isn't a native install so i suppose i can live with it as long as i have a mouse plugged in. All in all, it's possible and it runs stable, i haven't had it freeze on me yet. Make sure you have at least a 1gb of ram.

on my next comp, i'm installing mac os on a pc...

now for the review score

ease of use, simplicity and efficiency, i give it a 8/10
for problems and issues 7/10, it's still in beta and theres plenty of forums to help you out
forum.insanelymac.com

overall score 8.5/10, just need to work out bugs and stuff...

*note: macbook pros have issues with their ati x1600 gpu chips...
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:56 PM   #2
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Nice review, have you tried Parallels Desktop at all?

http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/

The newest Beta version can use your Bootcamp Partition and run it in a virtual machine inside of OS X, and it is fast.
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Old 02-24-2007, 11:21 PM   #3
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how come there isn't a program that lets macs run on windows. i dont know much about xp on macs so can someone fill me in about why there is no osx on windows machines?
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i haven't tried parallels yet, i have it. i'm thinking of trying it after i reinstall my osx as some files gone haywire (root funess lol)

there is a program that lets you run macs on windows. it's called vmware (i think), basically creates a virtual pc, but i'm not sure, the term was like hackintosh, http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?

and scroll down to pc's with osx 86 installation and what not.

current option is the double booting OSX 10.4.6

though how you get the OS is up to you, there is plenty of patched versions, so it installs somewhat smoothly on AMD or Intel.
It's said that PC's that cost half of what macs offer run mac osx a lot faster and smoother, but personally i'm not surprised, i never liked mac hardware.

oh and there are programs to patch your mac osx so you can do it on your own legit copy (idk how since i haven't tried) and you can get a lot of the patches you need off places where they talk about double boot.

just remember there are requirements in running osx, for example SSE2 is needed, so older cpus won't be able to run (like mine) so most has to be at least 64 bit range.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:57 PM   #5
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Is boot camp illegal? I just think that it would be...
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Is boot camp illegal? I just think that it would be...
nope, its completely legal. it was put out by Apple specifically to allow people to run XP on their new intel systems. what is illegal is the osx86 project.

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boot camp site http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

so thats legit


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what is illegal is the osx86 project.

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that's not entirely true. though a lot of people abuse it that doesn't make it illegal. there are plenty of people with legit copies and what not. Specifically, a natural counter exists, which is, windows damages the files (if you download it) due to being a different format, or from mac to windows the corruption may happen since you don't retain the same file unless you make sure you can't rewrite on it.

and you have to work with the original disks to get it to work. i'm assuming you might be saying something about "editing" the OS making that illegal, due to software modification, but then again they have those programs for windows, and some of the programs are supported microsoft.

but i'm not entirely sure about it so, if i'm wrong then i'm wrong.
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you're right, i should have been more specific. downloading it is illegal (they even admit it on insanelymac - http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=14364). unless apple has specifically released a version to run on non-mac hardware, i would assume its illegal solely because it violates the EULA.

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Bootcamp is legal and may be discussed in this review. OSX86 is not legal and may not be discussed, and it's off topic anyway.

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