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milkman4_hi_r · 03-31-2003, 07:05 PM

ok so almost everyone has kazaa yet all i hear is bad things. what are the recomendations for it. should i get it? and my freind wants it too but im not sure if we should get it becouse of all the negitive things ive heard about it. thoughts?

BFD Deadeye · 03-31-2003, 07:15 PM

Avoid Kazaa, get Kazaa Lite.

scott_d · 03-31-2003, 07:16 PM

if you get kazaa lite, it is good, just..under NO circumstances...download the regular version.
you can get kazaa lite at www.kazaalite.com
The regular version is filled with nasty little things like spyware and adware....yuck
HTH

Redo40 · 03-31-2003, 07:18 PM

If you decide to get it be sure to get Kazaa Lite. Run a updated anti-virus and spyware checker. I have used it for over a year and have not had any problems (that's with two teenagers using it), but any time you download from unknown sources you take a chance of getting a virus or more. As long as you are aware and take precautions you should be fine.

Nuclear Krusader · 03-31-2003, 08:20 PM

Kazaa is a virus in itself, IMO.

milkman4_hi_r · 03-31-2003, 08:31 PM

yea im pretty confident in myself but im not sure about my friend. he has a couple of kids that want to download using it couse all their freinds use it but there not to computer literate so ill just have to keep an eye on it for them.

SARGE · 03-31-2003, 08:39 PM

oops

SARGE · 03-31-2003, 08:40 PM

If you get it, get the below to keep things tidy. They're free.

http://security.kolla.de/

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

milkman4_hi_r · 03-31-2003, 09:30 PM

should i use one or both? i use spybot now but is there a reason to use adaware?

Redo40 · 03-31-2003, 09:45 PM

I use Spybot on a daily basis and occasionally run Ad-Aware just to be sure.

SARGE · 03-31-2003, 09:47 PM

Some claim that one (either) often catches something the other misses.

Propain · 03-31-2003, 11:04 PM

I run both with no problems whatsoever. I f one doesnt have it the other one will.

cheers

icallmedan · 03-31-2003, 11:09 PM

Kazaa puts alot of ad files on your computer you can't get off even with ad-aware. I don't use it for that reason and in a CNN headline one time, they were talking about targeting specific users for using Kazaa! So hey take the risk, or don't, it's up to you!

milkman4_hi_r · 04-01-2003, 07:48 AM

well im not really that gung ho about kazaa. its just that my friend wants to use it and i was trying to talk him out of it because of everything that i've heard bad about it. i have a couple of other p-to-p programs, dont want to be a namedropper though, but are there any other good ones besides kazaa or should you just look out for all of them?

Cricket · 04-01-2003, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by milkman4_hi_r
i have a couple of other p-to-p programs, dont want to be a namedropper though, but are there any other good ones besides kazaa or should you just look out for all of them?

Isn't WinMX supposed to be pretty good? I know that Kazaa is a big time virus spreader.

Cricket

reboot · 04-01-2003, 09:41 AM

WinMX is just as big a "virus spreader". All P2P filesharing programs are.
I only use the K++ version of Klite, and watch what you download, and scan what you do.
The WinMX database isn't as big as kazaa (less users=less files), but there are times when one has stuff I want that the other doesn't, so I do have both.
Read these: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...ighlight=kazaa
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...ighlight=kazaa

Cheryl · 04-01-2003, 10:02 AM

I have to disagree with you reboot. I had kazaa lite for about a day. Every time I searched for something, there was a few files that were obviously viruses...I at least knew to avoid them. I haven't had that happen yet with WinMX

Cheryl

whargoul · 04-01-2003, 01:32 PM

Dont download anything more than mp3's. That's your virus protection.

If you're looking for software at least use common sense and a virus scanner. Anything that claims to be "Windows XP SP1", but is like 1.5Mb and ends in .vbs is most likely not going to be what your looking for.

Also avoid Microsoft extensions, .wma,.wmv,etc. are more likely to do some funny business (popups, etc.).

I also have WinMX, it doesn't get used much. Anything that I can't find on Kazaa usually wont be on MX, or I'll be on queue forever. Not to mention it hasn't been exactly stable for me, whereas I havn't had a single crash from Kazaa.

reboot · 04-01-2003, 02:47 PM

Cheryl_2, and others.
WinMX has just as many problems as any other P2P program.
ANY file can be a virus/trojan, even if it purports to be exactly what you're looking for, and is exactly the right filesize, and has exactly the right extention.
Maybe they're not as obvious in WinMX, but they're there.
Kazaalite doesn't filter as well, granted, but the search results also reflect the number of users online, something you dont' get in WinMX, and if you feel like waiting in the queue for 2 or 3 days, then you can get the file.
If you really like waiting in queue's, try Edonkey for a few days

ILLPHIL · 04-01-2003, 03:59 PM

is it true that mp3s cant have viri in them?

whargoul · 04-01-2003, 04:22 PM

eMule + a good server list + ShareReactor (or any other site like it) = awesome downloading.

milkman4_hi_r · 04-01-2003, 11:09 PM

ok. i downloaded kazaalight and installed it. ok. then i go on line just now and download with it and everything looked good. my first download, yeay.....so i thought. come to find out that my first download gets scanned by my virus detector and there seems to be a bug in the download..... ok if this happened like after 20 downloads or something ok. but the first download?!! come on!! it says the virus is Win32/Hantaner. does anyone know if this is a virus or just something that my virus scanner thinks is a virus but isnt??

SARGE · 04-01-2003, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by milkman4_hi_r
come on!! it says the virus is Win32/Hantaner. does anyone know if this is a virus or just something that my virus scanner thinks is a virus but isnt??

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...llp.handy.html

milkman4_hi_r · 04-01-2003, 11:26 PM

why? why? why? its just my luck. im scanning my system now and plan on getting rid of this file. i hould have known not to use kazaa! what files are definately viruses or suspect? is there anyway to block these from showing up when i search?

foghat46 · 04-01-2003, 11:31 PM

Speaking from my own experience, I avoid Kazaa like the plague. I have used Winmx for almost 2 years now and have yet to encounter a single virus problem or a crash. I scan twice weekly with Gladiator and Spybot and find nothing unusual that I can trace to Winmx, but then, I only do Mp3's.

***glc*** · 04-02-2003, 12:33 AM

*ANY* peer to peer filesharing service has risks - where you are not getting legitimate software from "official" sources. I don't even trust drivers from driverguide.com that have been uploaded by others.

milkman4_hi_r · 04-02-2003, 12:42 AM

i think ive used some drivers from driverguide.com maybe they messed my computer up?

SARGE · 04-02-2003, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by milkman4_hi_r
i think ive used some drivers from driverguide.com maybe they messed my computer up?

Depends on what's wrong with the pc (if anything). I've had bonafide software screw things up; even Windows itself caused some snafus.

***glc*** · 04-02-2003, 07:29 AM

I've used driverguide drivers too - but you better believe I read all the comments first. I always try the manufacturer's official site first when I'm digging for a driver.

Propain · 04-02-2003, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by whargoul
Dont download anything more than mp3's. That's your virus protection.

Thats my advice also. hitting 2300 mp3s with no probs.

cheers

03-31-2003, 07:05 PM	#1
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	Kazaa???? ok so almost everyone has kazaa yet all i hear is bad things. what are the recomendations for it. should i get it? and my freind wants it too but im not sure if we should get it becouse of all the negitive things ive heard about it. thoughts? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Those who realize the Self are always satisfied. Having found the source of joy and fulfillment they no longer seek happiness from the external world. They have nothing to gain or lose by any action; neither people nor things can affect their security ______________________________________________ Sys Spex: Intel C2D E6850 3GHz 1333MHzFSB @ 3.61GHz 1600MHzFSB (x9 multi, 400MHz bus, 1.4v, 35C Full Load) \| Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme w/ Thermaltake 120mm \| Asus P5K Deluxe/Wi-Fi \| eVGA 8800GTX 768MB (Core 576MHz, Mem 900MHz @ Core 610.55MHz, Mem 1000.27MHz, 75C Full Load) \| Azenx Blitzstorm Slot Fan \| LITE-ON 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA \| Plextor PX-760A DVD Burner \| Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive \| Maxtor 250GB ATA HDD \| Corsair 620HX PSU \| mushkin Extreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) \| Creative Sound Blaster Fatal1ty \| RAIDMAX SMILODON Mid Tower \| and of coarse my trusty Samsung floppy drive

03-31-2003, 07:15 PM	#2
BFD Deadeye Member (10 bit) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Conrad, Montana USA Posts: 903	Avoid Kazaa, get Kazaa Lite. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 07:16 PM	#3
scott_d Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 927	if you get kazaa lite, it is good, just..under NO circumstances...download the regular version. you can get kazaa lite at www.kazaalite.com The regular version is filled with nasty little things like spyware and adware....yuck HTH Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 07:18 PM	#4
Redo40 Member (12 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 2,170	If you decide to get it be sure to get Kazaa Lite. Run a updated anti-virus and spyware checker. I have used it for over a year and have not had any problems (that's with two teenagers using it), but any time you download from unknown sources you take a chance of getting a virus or more. As long as you are aware and take precautions you should be fine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Roger "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius

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03-31-2003, 08:31 PM	#6
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	yea im pretty confident in myself but im not sure about my friend. he has a couple of kids that want to download using it couse all their freinds use it but there not to computer literate so ill just have to keep an eye on it for them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 08:39 PM	#7
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03-31-2003, 08:40 PM	#8
SARGE The Preacher Man Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Dallas Posts: 4,828	If you get it, get the below to keep things tidy. They're free. http://security.kolla.de/ http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 09:30 PM	#9
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	should i use one or both? i use spybot now but is there a reason to use adaware? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 09:45 PM	#10
Redo40 Member (12 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 2,170	I use Spybot on a daily basis and occasionally run Ad-Aware just to be sure. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 09:47 PM	#11
SARGE The Preacher Man Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Dallas Posts: 4,828	Some claim that one (either) often catches something the other misses. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-31-2003, 11:04 PM	#12
Propain Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,012	I run both with no problems whatsoever. I f one doesnt have it the other one will. cheers Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ 3.40 AMD Phenom II X4 965--4G OCZ DDR3---Asus 5770 ATI Radeon----INTEL 78G SSD drive

03-31-2003, 11:09 PM	#13
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	Kazaa puts alot of ad files on your computer you can't get off even with ad-aware. I don't use it for that reason and in a CNN headline one time, they were talking about targeting specific users for using Kazaa! So hey take the risk, or don't, it's up to you! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 07:48 AM	#14
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	well im not really that gung ho about kazaa. its just that my friend wants to use it and i was trying to talk him out of it because of everything that i've heard bad about it. i have a couple of other p-to-p programs, dont want to be a namedropper though, but are there any other good ones besides kazaa or should you just look out for all of them? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 09:41 AM	#16
reboot Member (14 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 9,138	WinMX is just as big a "virus spreader". All P2P filesharing programs are. I only use the K++ version of Klite, and watch what you download, and scan what you do. The WinMX database isn't as big as kazaa (less users=less files), but there are times when one has stuff I want that the other doesn't, so I do have both. Read these: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...ighlight=kazaa http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...ighlight=kazaa Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Black holes are where God divided by zero... Cheers, Jim Jims Modems

04-01-2003, 10:02 AM	#17
Cheryl Member (8 bit) Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 252	I have to disagree with you reboot. I had kazaa lite for about a day. Every time I searched for something, there was a few files that were obviously viruses...I at least knew to avoid them. I haven't had that happen yet with WinMX Cheryl Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 01:32 PM	#18
whargoul Member (9 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 338	Dont download anything more than mp3's. That's your virus protection. If you're looking for software at least use common sense and a virus scanner. Anything that claims to be "Windows XP SP1", but is like 1.5Mb and ends in .vbs is most likely not going to be what your looking for. Also avoid Microsoft extensions, .wma,.wmv,etc. are more likely to do some funny business (popups, etc.). I also have WinMX, it doesn't get used much. Anything that I can't find on Kazaa usually wont be on MX, or I'll be on queue forever. Not to mention it hasn't been exactly stable for me, whereas I havn't had a single crash from Kazaa. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Last edited by whargoul; 04-01-2003 at 01:34 PM.

04-01-2003, 02:47 PM	#19
reboot Member (14 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 9,138	Cheryl_2, and others. WinMX has just as many problems as any other P2P program. ANY file can be a virus/trojan, even if it purports to be exactly what you're looking for, and is exactly the right filesize, and has exactly the right extention. Maybe they're not as obvious in WinMX, but they're there. Kazaalite doesn't filter as well, granted, but the search results also reflect the number of users online, something you dont' get in WinMX, and if you feel like waiting in the queue for 2 or 3 days, then you can get the file. If you really like waiting in queue's, try Edonkey for a few days Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 03:59 PM	#20
ILLPHIL Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brookline MA USA Posts: 551	is it true that mp3s cant have viri in them? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 04:22 PM	#21
whargoul Member (9 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 338	eMule + a good server list + ShareReactor (or any other site like it) = awesome downloading. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 11:09 PM	#22
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	ok. i downloaded kazaalight and installed it. ok. then i go on line just now and download with it and everything looked good. my first download, yeay.....so i thought. come to find out that my first download gets scanned by my virus detector and there seems to be a bug in the download..... ok if this happened like after 20 downloads or something ok. but the first download?!! come on!! it says the virus is Win32/Hantaner. does anyone know if this is a virus or just something that my virus scanner thinks is a virus but isnt?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 11:26 PM	#24
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	why? why? why? its just my luck. im scanning my system now and plan on getting rid of this file. i hould have known not to use kazaa! what files are definately viruses or suspect? is there anyway to block these from showing up when i search? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2003, 11:31 PM	#25
foghat46 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Race Car Heaven Posts: 347	Speaking from my own experience, I avoid Kazaa like the plague. I have used Winmx for almost 2 years now and have yet to encounter a single virus problem or a crash. I scan twice weekly with Gladiator and Spybot and find nothing unusual that I can trace to Winmx, but then, I only do Mp3's. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-02-2003, 12:33 AM	#26
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,788	*ANY* peer to peer filesharing service has risks - where you are not getting legitimate software from "official" sources. I don't even trust drivers from driverguide.com that have been uploaded by others. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-02-2003, 12:42 AM	#27
milkman4_hi_r Member (10 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 797	i think ive used some drivers from driverguide.com maybe they messed my computer up? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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04-02-2003, 07:29 AM	#29
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,788	I've used driverguide drivers too - but you better believe I read all the comments first. I always try the manufacturer's official site first when I'm digging for a driver. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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