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12-24-2003, 01:25 PM
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Boot to Extended OS partition ONLY
Let me try to describe my situation to see if it can be done.
I have 98 on my primary partition. An extended partition with 2 logical drives, one for data (fat32) the other has XP (NTFS). I want to get rid of 98 and keep XP, but how would I boot to it without wiping the drive? If I keep a boot.ini, a command.com, and any other DOS files needed on the primary partition can I get it to work? Or will I probably need a 3rd party boot loader to load my one OS? TIA P.S.: I'm probably not going to do this, I just want to see if it can be done... I like to tweak and tinker, thanks everyone!
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12-24-2003, 01:29 PM
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with partition magic it would be easy to do
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12-24-2003, 01:31 PM
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How would PM do it? If I delete everything on my primary drive, what would I have to keep, if anything, to tell it where to look for the OS? PM has an option for doing this?! Or do you mean PM could move/change the extended to the primary?
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12-24-2003, 01:34 PM
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Right, here's how you would go about it:
1) Boot to Windows XP. 2) Format the partition that has Win98 on it. 3) Shut down/Restart your PC. 4) Boot off your Windows XP CD and enter the recovery console. 5) Type FIXMBR at the command prompt. When the system reboots, you should have a perfect XP-only system('coz surprise!!!! WinXP supports booting off of logical drives). But I would personally advocate reloading Xp on a primary partition. Saves a lot on boot time. |
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12-24-2003, 01:37 PM
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It can boot off logical drives? I'm liking XP more everyday. 98 can't do that, at least I don't think so. Hey is it "fixmbr" or "fix /mbr"? thanks
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12-24-2003, 01:46 PM
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XP supports booting off of logical drives (i.e. extended partitions), a feature first introduced with Windows 2000.
As to the command, its FIXMBR, exactly as written in my earlier post. FIX/MBRwill not work. |
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12-24-2003, 01:54 PM
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What's difference between "FIXMBR" and "fdisk /MBR"?
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12-24-2003, 01:56 PM
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your taxing my memeroy now
one is for w98 and the other is for w2000/and xp I think, but could be wrong, I would have to look it up in the book or do a google search on it |
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12-24-2003, 02:07 PM
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The former is for Win2K/XP (especially XP) and the latter is for Win98/Me and earlier.
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12-24-2003, 02:11 PM
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Besides, Windows XP does not support FDISK. And Fdisk was never designed to read/modify/create NTFS partitions, especially NTFS 5 as implemented in Win2K and XP. Fdisk is almost strictly a FAT tool, to the point that it will report all NTFS partitions as Non-DOS partitions.
Also, NTFS supprts some features that FATxx does not, such as multiple primary partitions on the same physical hard disk (upto 4, if I remember correctly). |
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12-24-2003, 02:21 PM
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FYI,
NTFS differs form FATxx in that it supprts some pretty advanced features such as dynamic cluster scaling, file/folder/drive security and compression, and file/folder/drive encryption, all designed to promote network security, since NTFS derives form MS's early drive to an NOS. FATxx was designed for desktop (read single) computers and therefore does not support any of the above features, except compression through Drivespace, and so is a totally transparent sile system (all users on a system have equal access to all files on the system). Last edited by pillainp; 12-24-2003 at 02:24 PM. |
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12-24-2003, 02:25 PM
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I also heard with XP and NTFS you can create mount points and software RAID 0... while Server 2000/2003 can do software RAID 0,1, & 5.
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12-24-2003, 02:26 PM
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Yup.
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12-24-2003, 02:27 PM
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One other feature that NTFS supports is hard-linking of files/folders and partitions.
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12-24-2003, 02:27 PM
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Although I think you can only mount in XP Pro not Home b/c it supports dynamic disks.
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12-24-2003, 02:32 PM
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One thing you must understand is that Windows XP was never inended to be a server OS. It simply supports and meets the demands of networking in corporate/office environments (XP Pro) and simple home networks (XP Home). The network servers were themselves always intended to be versions of Win 2000 Server and later Windows 2003 (itself never intended to be a desktop OS, but an outgrowth if you will of Win2k Server and its brethren).
Leads to a lot of misunderstanding, especially among lay audiences. |
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12-24-2003, 02:34 PM
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The need for dynamic disk structures in XP Pro arises from the need for greater data security and integrity, features that were never felt to be (and hardly ever are) required in home environments
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