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Force Flow 08-12-2008 09:31 PM

nVidia GPU failures in laptops - Prevention & Repair & Lawsuit Settlement FAQ
 
Some background Info:

Basically, if you have an 8400M or 8600M in your laptop, there's a high probability for failure.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/a...-chips-faulty/

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-failures.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Del...-GPU,5988.html




Also, but unconfirmed-- desktop models *might* be affected: http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/12/n...s-failing-too/


update (8/15): brief response from nvidia stating desktop models aren't affected (which is what they originally said about the laptops), only a small percentage of laptops are affected, and that they are working on keeping chips that are currently being manufactured from exhibiting the problems that have shown up so far. I'll take all this with a grain of salt since nvidia hasn't been entirely up front about everything so far.

http://gizmodo.com/5037070/proof-nvi...erials-defects



New Laptop Purchases

It is unclear whether or not newly manufactured laptops from Dell and HP are affected, or how they are addressing it since many models still carry the defective nvidia GPUs.

Until this is officially addressed, my best suggestion for users purchasing new laptops is to avoid models that include the defective GPUs. You can also try calling in before you order to see what they say. But, since there's been no official statements as of yet, you may not get much of anywhere, or you may simply get empty assurances from the sales rep.


*update*: Dell is currently shipping newly manufactured laptops with the BIOS fix. No word yet on if the defective GPU lines have been replaced in newly manufactured laptops.




HP/Compaq


If you own an HP/Compaq laptop, look here even if your warranty has expired. An additional 2-year coverage period is given for laptops meeting certain conditions:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c01300427


update (10/12): Some desktop models with integrated video are affected:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...reg_R1002_USEN



Dell

List of affected Dell Laptops and BIOS fixes:

http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...op-owners.aspx

http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...customers.aspx

Basically, this will affect how long the fan will run, but is said not to affect battery life because it runs at half or quarter speed. This fix will not repair GPUs that have already failed or in the process of failing.



If your GPU has failed or is failing, Dell suggests contacting support. No word yet as to what they're doing about out-of-warranty repairs.
  • Go to support.dell.com
  • Choose your country or region from the drop-down list
  • Choose Contact Us
  • Choose Technical Support
  • Choose Call Technical Support

update (8/18): Dell is extending warranties by 12 months on affected laptop models: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...worldwide.aspx

update (9/14): Dell still extending warranties by 12 months on this issue: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...t-details.aspx




Apple
update (10/12): Some Macbook Pro models may be affected, as they have the nvidia 8600M chip

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377

Quote:

  • MacBook Pro 15-inch and 17-inch models with NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processors
  • MacBook Pro (17-Inch, 2.4GHz)
  • MacBook Pro (15-Inch, 2.4/2.2GHz)
  • MacBook Pro (Early 2008)
  • These computers were manufactured between approximately May 2007 and September 2008

Users experiencing "Distorted or scrambled video on the computer screen" and/or "No video on the computer screen (or external display) even though the computer is on" with these models are enouraged to contact apple or the nearest retail store. It *appears* that these repairs are offered at no charge, as they are offering refunds on past repairs exhibiting these issues.



[edit]:Issue Update (1/18/11):
Quote:

The NVIDIA GPU Litigation page is finally taking claims from people affected by the company's faulty laptop GPUs. The courts have approved the settlement and you have from now until March 14, 2011 to get your claim in.

The lawsuit alleged that some of NVIDIA Graphics Processing Units ("GPUs") and Media and Communications Processors ("MCPs") contained a defect that affected the performance of some of the notebook computers in which they were incorporated. NVIDIA denies all allegations of wrongdoing and has asserted many defenses. The settlement is not an admission of wrongdoing.
--from http://hardocp.com/news/2011/01/18/n...gpu_litigation

http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/

pam123 08-13-2008 01:00 PM

Thanks Force.

The follow up isn't clear yet but it's possible the desktop counterparts are also a problem.

shadowpr 08-13-2008 02:02 PM

Now that it might include the desktop models, I'll be following this a bit closer.

Alaron 08-18-2008 05:29 PM

Just saw this information. Dell is extending warranties to affected models listed here: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...worldwide.aspx

shadowpr 10-03-2008 09:02 AM

More lawsuits coming: http://www.itexaminer.com/nvidia-del...ive-chips.aspx

pam123 10-03-2008 10:50 AM

It's possible that AMD/ATI may be the only graphics company left standing when this is all over.

liambl 10-03-2008 03:51 PM

I'm VERY interested in this now that it apparently involves G92 and G94's. If this is true Nvidia would be in very deep...

Force Flow 10-03-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pam123 (Post 1382354)
It's possible that AMD/ATI may be the only graphics company left standing when this is all over.

That would be a shame. I really do like nvidia's products (even though when I actually *do* go out and get a card for myself, ATi always seems to have a more powerful model out there :-/ )

Also, competition is always good for the hardware market.

glc 10-03-2008 05:52 PM

I went for Nvidia this time simply because I hate the Catalyst drivers.

pam123 10-03-2008 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glc (Post 1382397)
I went for Nvidia this time simply because I hate the Catalyst drivers.


I've been dancing around with Catalyst drivers since May.

I'm not happy.

So I'm facing a choice in the next 2 months or so for an update.

That can be described as : arrararagghhahh!!!:eek:


I just have to pick what I most need to run well . :(


edit : What customers most need to run well.

Force Flow 10-12-2008 04:10 PM

updated to include Apple on the list, and HP desktops with integrated video


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