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04-18-2001, 04:31 PM
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Any good online places to learn this ?
I'v only found 4 or 5 places so far.  What kind of tools/programs do I need ?
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04-18-2001, 04:48 PM
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You mean, learn machine code, or x86 assembler?
x86 assembler is a language which can be directly translated into machine code. You can do it yourself, in hex, or have an assembler do it for you (much easier). So: Do you need to learn x86 assembly, or are you only looking for the instruction set? I have a copy of the pentium instruction set, so if you knew x86 you could program with any hex editor...
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04-18-2001, 05:00 PM
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Yes wanting to lean the x86 . Looking for the 8052 standard.
Do I just learn the assembly and have a hex editor do the rest ? Should I know both? |
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04-18-2001, 05:06 PM
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Your best bet is to simply use an assembler. There are a hundred free assemblers out there (because they're sooo easy to code) as really, assembling is just translating mnemonics into bits, and lookup tables are easy to program.
In fact, I had a professor tell me once: "There's only one really good use for programming in machine code, and that's to program an assembler so you never need machine code again". As to how to learn x86, I'd start by doing searches on Google or such for x86 programming tutorials... Here's something to start you off: http://www.ibilce.unesp.br/courseware/asm/astart.htm |
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04-19-2001, 11:49 AM
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You can you go to this site http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/spim.html and download the simulator, write your code using notepad...
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04-21-2001, 10:21 AM
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Thanks I'll look around those sights.
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