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Old 06-24-2006, 12:32 PM   #1
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1 & 1 Hosting - Reliable?

Im looking at the Business pckage with 1 & 1 - it has all I need, 3 Domains, plenty of bandwidth and storage space... Notto mention the "free" software that comes with it.

Has anyone used it and is it reliable? Why it is so much cheaper than Yahoo or something else?

If not, (and yes, I have looked over the sticky), which Host would you recommend? I am planning on hosting many files (not more than 5 GB) in addition to sites (and maybe let a friend use the other domain).

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Old 06-24-2006, 12:58 PM   #2
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I've heard anything good...I've heard Surpass hosting is good...I haven't used them but I probably will be shortly. Also, the have a 2 for 1 deal going now.

http://www.surpasshosting.com/promotion
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I have a couple domains running on 1&1, no problems. I would recommend them to anyone. I chose them because of the price, and have not regretted it one bit.
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That great, thanks Alaron... all I needed was a little reassurance. I'll probably purchase the business plan soon - since I don't have a credit card I am going to have to get my parents to sign up and pay them back the 10$ a month...

I haven't found it on their site, but does 1&1 charge an account opening fee or not?
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I have a couple domains running on 1&1, no problems. I would recommend them to anyone. I chose them because of the price, and have not regretted it one bit.
Really. You are the first that I have ever heard tha had good experiences with them.

Webhostingtalk.com show the good bad and the ugly of hosts. You might look at what others are saying. Not real pretty.
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:39 PM   #6
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Thanks mairving... now I really have to do some more searching - I know all services are going to have some negative response, but this seems a little carried away. Who would you recommend I host through?

Blue, surpasshosting looks like a good option too - thanks.
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Hmm, 1 and 1 is very reliable it's just they are expensive. www.aplus.net are absolutely great and really cheap, linux SoloXR is awesome. Also, you could try www.dreamhost.com. If you decide to use Aplus PM me and I'll give you my Affiliate link
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Ryan, there's a dandy of a sticky on the forum:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=143762
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Hmm, 1 and 1 is very reliable it's just they are expensive. www.aplus.net are absolutely great and really cheap, linux SoloXR is awesome. Also, you could try www.dreamhost.com. If you decide to use Aplus PM me and I'll give you my Affiliate link
WOW - Dreamhost looks perfect... what have you guys heard about this company? However, I am still somewhat leaning toward 1$1 despite the negative reviews... the business package is exactly what I need because I need more than one domain since I don't know how much time I can dedicate to one of the sites I'm going to set up - the other (after time) should be pretty much automated (Ihope) and be similiar to MySpace, but for a MUCH, MUCH smaller community - with personal blogs and what not...

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Really. You are the first that I have ever heard tha had good experiences with them.

Webhostingtalk.com show the good bad and the ugly of hosts. You might look at what others are saying. Not real pretty.
Yup really. I don't have very complex/traffic heavy sites, so perhaps that is the reason. I'm sure that as with all things, theres always people who have complaints. But until I have an issue, I'd recommend them.
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For now, I guess it is worth a try... if I am disappointed in 6 months I can cancel... I don't expect to have super high trafic sites, but I would like to generate (via ads or something) enough revenue to keep the site self sustaining... I don't mind paying as it is quite inexpensive, but that would be a plus...
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I've wondered about them, too, ryan124712. Post back and let us know how it works out, OK?
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WOW - Dreamhost looks perfect... what have you guys heard about this company? However, I am still somewhat leaning toward 1$1 despite the negative reviews... the business package is exactly what I need because I need more than one domain since I don't know how much time I can dedicate to one of the sites I'm going to set up - the other (after time) should be pretty much automated (Ihope) and be similiar to MySpace, but for a MUCH, MUCH smaller community - with personal blogs and what not...
You may want to check out this post about how bad dreamhost is:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=156623

Also NEVER let the people hosting your files control your domain (letting them control your your DNS is fine). Register it yourself. I cannot stress this enough. If you let them control your domain and you ever want to move to a different host, you most likely will never get your domain from them... since they are the owner.
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You may want to check out this post about how bad dreamhost is:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=156623

Also NEVER let the people hosting your files control your domain (letting them control your your DNS is fine). Register it yourself. I cannot stress this enough. If you let them control your domain and you ever want to move to a different host, you most likely will never get your domain from them... since they are the owner.
Sure you can get the domain back from them...just have to cough up a $200.

Good advice.
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You may want to check out this post about how bad dreamhost is:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=156623

Also NEVER let the people hosting your files control your domain (letting them control your your DNS is fine). Register it yourself. I cannot stress this enough. If you let them control your domain and you ever want to move to a different host, you most likely will never get your domain from them... since they are the owner.
thanks, that is something I never really thought about. But now that you bring it up, it makes a lot of sense to register my own domains. If I register my own domains, does this mean that I have to look for a host that allows be to "add-on" domains... also, if I register my own domain, couldn't I just create my own dedicated server (have old PCs that might work) and attach the domain to that? That would be ideal, since my sites will be low traffic, assuming my ISP doesn't mind.

I wish we would have learned more about this kinda stuff in computer science this year - we learned quite of a bit of HTML and some javascript (although most of the year was coding with VB and intro to robotics).
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I would think all hosts would include a parked domain as part of the package. "Parked" domains take you to the root of the server..."add-on" domains usually allow you to point to other folders.

You could use your own PC for this, BUT you'll have issues if you don't have a dedicated IP....if your IP changes, your site would go down and you'd have to update the DNS and wait for it to propigate again...
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I would think all hosts would include a parked domain as part of the package. "Parked" domains take you to the root of the server..."add-on" domains usually allow you to point to other folders.

You could use your own PC for this, BUT you'll have issues if you don't have a dedicated IP....if your IP changes, your site would go down and you'd have to update the DNS and wait for it to propigate again...
I believe a service like No-IP will handle dynamic IP addresses - http://www.no-ip.com/services/manage...namic_dns.html

Nonetheless, I'll have to give this a try (not just for the purpose of setting up a server, but also because it sounds funs), and I will follow Tyler's article on creating webserver - http://www.pcmech.com/show/network/690/1/
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That it might. I'm not familiar with those, but give it a shot, good luck.
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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and try it out with some junker old PC I have - it might not even install XP, but I can try. If it works the way it should, and speeds are decent through my ISP, I will build a low cost rig with newer, more reliable, hardware.
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I'd check with your ISP if it's OK before building anything new. Who's your ISP? Maybe they have a dedicated IP/faster speeds package? Of course it would cost more per month....

One nice thing about being your own host is you don't have to worry about how good the support is, etc
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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and try it out with some junker old PC I have - it might not even install XP, but I can try.
Use Linux.
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I'd check with your ISP if it's OK before building anything new. Who's your ISP? Maybe they have a dedicated IP/faster speeds package? Of course it would cost more per month....

One nice thing about being your own host is you don't have to worry about how good the support is, etc
My current ISP is Fibertel - but I'm not going to get started on this until after I move to the United States (Tennesee - pretty much another international location, if you know what I mean ). I think they are called EPlusBroadband - I have never heard of them before, but I can get 10M / 1 M connection for 54.95$ a month - sounds like a deal to me. All there personal home packages have a non-static IP, which is fine. But like I said, the pages will probably get no more than 50 visitors a day (I mean who would want to read a blog by boring me ) and be used to hosting files.

If you know of a better ISP, I'm all ears.

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The thoughts been going through my mind. I'll have to look more into the software available to do it, though. Know of any programs like AppServ, which Tyler recommends in his article?
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The thoughts been going through my mind. I'll have to look more into the software available to do it, though. Know of any programs like AppServ, which Tyler recommends in his article?
I'm, obviously, partitial to Ubuntu, but with any Debian based system the installation will be basically the same.

Apache, MySQL, & PHP install:
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apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 php5 php5-mysql apache2 phpmyadmin
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My current ISP is Fibertel - but I'm not going to get started on this until after I move to the United States (Tennesee - pretty much another international location, if you know what I mean ).
Hey, don't go talking about us rednecks in Tennessee. You will need to learn some keywords like: fixin', ya'll, etc.

Where in TN are you going?
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Hey, don't go talking about us rednecks in Tennessee. You will need to learn some keywords like: fixin', ya'll, etc.

Where in TN are you going?
Yeah, I went there for a week to get a house - man, I felt like an idiot asking people to repeat themselves because I didn't understand their accents.

We're headed to Jackson, TN - Pringles capital of America, lol. My dad's job is taking us there for a couple years (then I'll graduate and go on to whatever) and they'll be off to another location.
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Jackson is actually a pretty nice place. It's about 45 minutes away from me.
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Jackson is actually a pretty nice place.
Yes, we certainly thought so. The public schools were quite different, but there is a private school that I enrolled it, which close to what I'm in now. The city is very nice, but it will take time from going from a city with millions of people down to one so much smaller. Although there are lots of new and interesting features I haven't been able to appreciate here (like the music stores which actually sell CDs from bands I like), it will be hard converting to how much more expensive things are (here movies cost 3$ to get see, bottles of Andes water for 30 cents, etc), and adjusting to the lack of taxis, McDonalds and Ice Cream delivery, and resonably priced hired help.
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You are about an hour from Memphis which has plenty to do and about 2 hours from Nashville which also has plenty to do.
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Don't forget about Pigeon forge y'all...but that's on the other side state. And your like 6 or so hours from me...
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Don't forget about Pigeon forge y'all...but that's on the other side state. And your like 6 or so hours from me...
And while you are over there in the hills head on over to Dollywood
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