about visuals c+++ !!

[id10x]

hi , this application is really giving me hard time, installing files out side
closed folders and having 5 applications of it in my installed programs panel
all with same names .

which ones should i be getting of these :

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86)

or this :

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x64)

or this :

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

or one of those :

Microsoft Express Downloads - Visual Studio Express and SQL Server Express


this is really hard to understand .

also net frame work , there is this same problem , do i need this

Download details: .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x64)

or this :

Download .NET Framework

help please its messing up my system

[Force Flow]

What operating system are you using? Note that x86 installers are 32-bit, and x64 are 64-bit. If you're running a 32-bit operating system, you can't install x64 applications.

For Visual Studio, just run the installer for it, and it will install the necessary components. Don't uninstall anything it installs unless you know what you're doing or you WILL break things.

The redistributable packages are like the .NET framework...a library of code that your C++ application uses to run. While the entries may look the same, they are actually different versions. I'd leave them alone if they are already installed on your computer.

For .NET, all you really need these days is version 3.5, and then let windows update that with the necessary hotfixes and service packs. 3.5 is backwards compatible with 2.0 and 3.0.

[id10x]

my os is in my sig , win 7 64 hp

so i should use 64 stuff ,ok. but which one ?

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x64)

or

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

there is some 2010 versions also

Microsoft Express Downloads - Visual Studio Express and SQL Server Express

and there is frame work 4

Download details: .NET Framework 3.5

Download .NET Framework

it says it support older versions so can you please pin point me the 2 links i need ?
thanks force as you see they are not making it easy, like updating dx9

[Force Flow]

The only things you actually need to install is a .NET framework and Visual Studio. The Visual Studio installer will take care of any other prerequisites.

[id10x]

i see what you mean , problem is i have windows update off . there is a lot of
updates that i dont actually need , so the version i will be installing wont be updated
and i want the latest .

[glc]

After you install them, do a manual windows update and only take the updates you need. You should take ALL critical updates anyway.

[Force Flow]

Addendum: If you're installing visual studio 2010, .NET 4 is required. Visual studio 2008 does not require that version.

[id10x]

i wont install visual studio , games never ask me for that , they just want visuals c++ and dx

i always noticed that they install the c++ 86 bit edition and it used to scatter its files out side
a closed folder . those files didnt look normal to me so now i installed this :

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x64)

and i dont see those messed up files anymore ,it seems to work fine i cant see
the c++ install folder either ,i guess it merged with windows os files .
but at installed programs panel it says its installed .

as for net frame work i tried 3.5 and 3.5 sp1 but the application would not
install . then i remebered it was included the windows futures list and
its enabled so i think its already integrated in win7 .
that is it for this matter i guess , no?

[Force Flow]

No, games and such don't require visual studio. Your questions and links led me to believe that installing visual studio was what you were asking about.

So, can you clarify what exactly your question is?

[glc]

I think he is simply wanting to install the VC++ runtime and the correct .NET Framework.

[id10x]

Originally Posted by id10x hi , this application is really giving me hard time, installing files out side closed folders and having 5 applications of it in my installed programs panel all with same names . which ones should i be getting of these : Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86) or this : Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x64) or this : Download details: Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64) or one of those : Microsoft Express Downloads - Visual Studio Express and SQL Server Express this is really hard to understand . also net frame work , there is this same problem , do i need this Download details: .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x64) or this : Download .NET Framework help please its messing up my system

sure , and yes mister GlC but what is the right ones ? they make lots of choices , in my post i never mentioned visual studio , every-time i want to install a game it asked or try to install that visual c +++ and i have no idea
on what it is , last time i looked at installed program panel i saw like 4 or 5
applications with that same name . you said to me that they may have same name but different content , right . ok i understand that . look at this
for ex



you see 3 of them already , before i had 5 maybe ,

then i was thinking what if i update this program like i do with dx maybe
then the games wont annoy me with reinstalling them .

at that point i had other problems with this application . the games
were installing the 86 bit edition which was scattering the install files
all over the place . if you opened c: driver you would just see files
thrown all over the disc without any folder to contain them .

this also looked wrong to me , so it gave me another reason to try and
look it up at Microsoft .

after that i found different things like the links i have here

Microsoft Download Center: Search Results

Microsoft Download Center: Search Results

Microsoft Download Center: Search Results

and this is were you thought i want visual studio

Microsoft Express Downloads - Visual Studio Express and SQL Server Express

i didnt even noticed that i was on visual studio page i was looking at visual c++ express i thought it was a free 2010 update ,

anyway i ended installing this one after all

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x64)

and it didnt scatter files on the disc , i think i might try the one with the
x64 sp1 also

Download details: Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

as for frame work i remembered that its included in windows 7 programs features , i can go for version
4 but dunno if its important .

[glc]

Uninstall all the ones you already have and get this:

Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package Free - This package contains the runtime components of Visual C++ Libraries needed for running applications on a PC without Visual C++ - Softpedia

THEN use Windows Update to get any applicable updates.

[id10x]

wouldnt that be better for my 64 bit os ?

and also its from Microsoft so its updated :

Download details: Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x64)

lol looks like avg has it own mind when it comes to c++ , before installing avg



after install avg it added 2 more c++ applications :



well one of them has even avg name on it , i guess other applications
would still add their own c++ also . but installing that updated 2010 one
was a good idea for the games , thanks

[glc]

You only need ONE runtime installation........

[id10x]

i dunno what you mean by run time , but there is 3 c++ installed now.the one with the run time word in it was installed
by avg , and the one next to it also, if i removed them avg wont start .