C# Eaiser Than C++?

[Justin26k]

I read somewhere that C# is much easier than C++ is this true?

[doctorgonzo]

Did you hear why it was easier? C# has a garbage collector, so that should make it easier than C++. In addition, it doesn't let you write all over your memory by going out of bounds in an array, which is a common problem in C++ if you don't explicitly check. But these are just things I know about C#; I haven't used it myself.

[Justin26k]

OK, Anymore opinions?

[mosquito]

It is a lot easier then C++ due to:
- Garbage collection
- No explicit memory allocation (and deallocation)
- No pointers

You can actually use all the arguments that make java easier then C++ on C# too. C# is closer related to java then C++ actually.

[Justin26k]

So C++ is a bad language ? im looking for a easy language yes I know programming languages is kinda like icecream to each there own but whats usallt easy I just wanna get the basics of programming then I will move up

[aym]

C++ isn't a bad language, but it's more difficult to begin with than Java or C#.
I recommend you to begin with Java, then after you master the basics, moving to C++, C# or any other object oriented language will be easier.

[Justin26k]

Would Java help me with Delphi?

[DrZaius]

Java is similar to C++, while Delphi is similar to Pascal, so no.

[Justin26k]

So what is usally easy for the beginner?

[DrZaius]

I would say Java is the best to start with.

[Justin26k]

Can i make actual apps with java or just internet apps?

Thanks for the help

[DrZaius]

Yep, you can make actual applications that will run in Windows, Linux, MacOS, etc.

Don't confuse Java with JavaScript, which is just a scripting language used for web sites and is not really Java based.

[Justin26k]

Do you know a actual program made in java a link maybe

[Justin26k]

also some links to java tuts would be nice and last but not least what do you compile java in Do you compile it in Microsoft J++ Or Borland J Builder or are these even for Java?

[DrZaius]

You can use any of those programs to compile the Java code, or you can use the free compiler from Sun and use a text editor to write the code (that's what I do).

http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.1...k-windows.html

Here are some good basics.

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/
http://javaboutique.internet.com/tutorials/Complete/

Hope that helps.

[Paul Victorey]

Originally posted by mosquito It is a lot easier then C++ due to: - Garbage collection - No explicit memory allocation (and deallocation) - No pointers You can actually use all the arguments that make java easier then C++ on C# too. C# is closer related to java then C++ actually.

Hehe, I prefer C++ over Java for exactly those three reasons

And, Java (and C#) may hide the use of pointers, but they're there underneath all the objects, and you need to know about them because of the difference between pass by reference and pass by value. I think the C++ style is actually easier because it's more obvious how you're passing parameters.

[aym]

If you want to see a real Java application, check out Forte 4 Java (AKA Sun One Studio), it's an IDE for creating Java programs.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/sundev/jde/buy/index.html

[mosquito]

Originally posted by Paul Victorey Hehe, I prefer C++ over Java for exactly those three reasons And, Java (and C#) may hide the use of pointers, but they're there underneath all the objects, and you need to know about them because of the difference between pass by reference and pass by value. I think the C++ style is actually easier because it's more obvious how you're passing parameters.

All true, but most programmers are pretty sloppy about this, resulting in a crash fest.