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Old 11-06-2002, 06:32 PM   #1
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Just a little simple question, anyone on PCMech code java? or is it still considered new ? or what have it
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Old 11-06-2002, 09:48 PM   #2
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Yep, it is an easy transfer from C++.
It suffers in speed a little, but keeps things a little cleaner.
The absolute best part is definitely the API.
What a Godsend.

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Old 11-07-2002, 08:16 AM   #3
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I've fiddled around with Java a bit. It is a good programming language to know. Logical and powerful.
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Old 11-07-2002, 05:45 PM   #4
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It's gettting huge acceptance... its now being taught at highschools replacing C++ (unfortunately in my opinion). I think there needs to be a lot of changes to it before I respect it. First and foremost a COMPLETE native code compiler. Decent for small projects. A nice alternative to flash. A great intro to TRUE Object Oriented Programming.
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Old 11-07-2002, 11:43 PM   #5
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That might resolve some speed issues, but part of the glory of Java is its complete portability and independence. Yeah, I know, in an MS world, who needs that? Still, I do agree with you, it would be nice.

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Old 11-08-2002, 01:47 PM   #6
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Portability? why not use a portable framework- wxWindows, FLTK, to name a few (free, complete ones)? You can't really do that in JAVA- well unless you supply all your users with that library.
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Old 11-08-2002, 05:27 PM   #7
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im a first year student graduate IT. w get c,c++ and java at the same time(even a little qbasic). its really handy to learn the entire evolution a bit. we only just started with java (make a little 'hello' box on opening a page or so) can someone point me to some 'example' exercises or simple explanation?
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Old 11-09-2002, 03:19 PM   #8
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TMAN:
Even if you use a protable framework, after compiling, your program will work only on one OS, if you compile for Windows, the user should have Windows installed, when using Java, only the free 10MB JRE is needed.

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Check out the Java tutorial ( http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ ), it starts with something similar.
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very little stops one from recompiling or using a cross compiler to create an executable on a target platform with a cross platform API.
As for just needing the JRE... well that's all well and good unless you're targeting a VM version thats newer than your users runtime. IMO making the user update is a forced hassle.
But you're right. To reach as many people as possible JAVA is one of the best solutions.
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Old 11-11-2002, 02:41 PM   #10
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Is there really any cross platform API that includes GUI, networking, and database access?
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Old 11-11-2002, 04:35 PM   #11
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wxWindows and FLTK

Not so free
QT

These are just a few. IMO wxWindows is the most flexible stable and complete. If you use MFC or QT you will find it very easy to use.

For FLTK and QT I believe you will have to get a databse wrapper but these are readily available.

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http://chortle.ccsu.edu/cs151/cs151java.html

Great Java site. Yeah, at my HS next year the AP CompSci course is changing from C++ to Java.
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Thanks a lot TMAN, I'll check these links, and yes, I know MFC well.
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