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Old 04-02-2003, 10:07 PM   #1
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Where to start: Java or C++?

I remember hearing one of them is based on the other, but which one? Would that be the best one to start learning?
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Old 04-02-2003, 10:17 PM   #2
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i started with C++ first...then only Java......but i am not sure which is based on which......

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Old 04-02-2003, 10:28 PM   #3
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Java is derived from C++. Learning Java first will help you understand OOP better, but C++ is probably the language you want to learn in the long run.
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Old 04-02-2003, 11:06 PM   #4
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OOP? What's that?
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Object Oriented Programming, creating you own data types, classes, etc.
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Old 04-03-2003, 01:57 PM   #6
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Okay. Thanks guys!
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Old 04-03-2003, 09:11 PM   #7
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OOP is probably the best programming style to learn, whether you are using C++ or Java. It's the most practical, it's the style that everyone uses nowadays, and it has the most potential for developing large applications with a minimal amount of bugs.
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:40 AM   #8
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So, where does visual basic come in? In C++ or this OOP?
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Visual Basic is a different programming language from C++, it is an OOP version of the BASIC language.
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Visual Basic is an attempt to make an object oriented-like language that is as easy to use as BASIC. Only VB.NET is a true object-oriented language; previous versions of VB did not include key components of object-oriented design. For this reason, and because VB is less powerful than C++ in some ways (but syntactically easier), VB is considered by many to be a "lesser" language than C++, but it is telling that M$ thinks a plurality of Windows developers use VB.
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Old 04-05-2003, 12:31 AM   #11
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Would that be where the infamous BSOD comes in?
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Old 04-06-2003, 08:11 AM   #12
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I don't think that BSOD comes only from VB apps.
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cmon, you all know that the most cutting edge language out there is cobol
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cmon, you all know that the most cutting edge language out there is cobol


A relative of mine finally got out of the comp programming gig since all she knew how to program was cobol
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Cobol is a valued skill. It pays alot especially in the financial districts of New York.
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Yeah, believe it or not, COBOL is very widely used on mainframes, even today. It's a niche market, but pays very handsomely.
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Yeah, believe it or not, COBOL is very widely used on mainframes, even today. It's a niche market, but pays very handsomely.
Hmm... a relative of mine retired from programming COBOL because it wasn't being used anymore where she was.
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cobol is old school but its still very common. i could land a pretty well paying job with my cobol learnedness, i would just be too bored!
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Starting with java would be your best bet right now because of Microsoft releasing C#. Bascially all it is, is visual basic object oriented programming with java being the actual code behind the buttons
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