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139 | 47.12% |
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54 | 18.31% |
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69 | 23.39% |
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08-12-2004, 11:09 AM
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XP SP2 Success or Failure
Please read carefully before clicking a poll option
SP2 is a pretty significant update to XP, that patches up a lot of widely publicized holes in the OS, and it would be in every XP user's best interests to install it; however there is, understandably, some hesitation on the stability of the service pack. In the interests of trying to give some assurances or to dissaude members from using a buggy install, I am posting a poll to guage the success or failure of XP SP2. In order to keep it as relevant as possible, I hope you will not mind the following guidelines: 1) I am providing multiple options based on the number of your XP installations, please select the appropriate SUCCESS or FAILURE machines; the options are 2) Multiple options allow you to add the options you want, say you have 2 successes and 1 failure, then by all means select both of them and submit your poll 3) Please do not try to do two successes or 2 failures, tabulate your machines using common_sense.dll 4) This thread is not a troubleshooting thread, please open a new thread discussing your problems and we'll try to get the resolution 5) Please try to be as "honest" of your system's chances taking SP2 to begin with, before giving your evaluation. For example: a) If you previously had problems with XP SP1 (virus, spyware, frequent crashes etc) and you thought SP2 was the cure-all, then it is highly likely that your installation of XP was bad to begin with b) If you are running buggy software that no longer works, I wouldnt quite say that it is SP2's fault, would you? Prime culprits are stuff like Kazaa and other programs from the underground c) If you had an illegal copy of XP, and SP2 found it, it doesnt qualify as a failure (more of a success if you ask me) Mind you these are just guidelines that I can think of, hopefully you will be fair SP2, to give anybody who hasnt yet installed it a fair assessment of what's going on. d) Please do not vote if you are discussing an issue with a beta or an RC version of SP2; it is by design a testing installation and we will go forward with the assumption that SP2 final/gold is devoid of the same failures or successes of the beta versions. e) Please do not vote if you are talking about an SP2 acquired other than from the Microsoft website and you had issues; you know from less than reputable sites that claim they have SP2 one way or another. It isnt that I am insinuating that these "mirrors" may have tampered with SP2, but do you know for sure that it is the real version that Microsoft has released? 6) If you would like to be verbose with what went wrong, it would be helpful as well. I am turning on the poll as public, in case you arent aware of this new feature, it allows you to see who voted for what (Addendum: The public poll means you can click on the number tabulating each vote and see who voted for what.). 7) Also vote for your service pack/critical updates installation patterns 7) If you want this editted in any way that will provide better results, please dont hesitate to PM me. Thanx for your cooperation and your time. Cheers So here's the stats at a glance guys, especially for the wait and watch After nearly 11 days of posting the polls, we have the following: Out of the 67 respondents, 50 had installed SP2 - I'm assuming that 15 are still waiting and watching; while 2 will not install SP2 because they believe XP or XPSP1 are not sufficiently broken to warrant a patch. So out of the 50 people that did install it; 2 machines had a failed install - or in at least 87 that took SP2 successfully 2 had a failed installation. Last edited by Statica; 08-19-2004 at 09:08 AM. Reason: Stats at a glance |
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08-12-2004, 01:03 PM
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SP2 installed on 6 machines, no hiccups at all so far, been running it for 2 days. Three of the machines are at work, 3 are at home. I also selected always apply critical updates/service packs as they're released. I figure if there's a reason for a company to update it, and they're spending the money to develop it and release it, especially free of charge, there's obviously a need for it and it's probably worth my while to apply the patch. Overall I like the features of SP2, it will help out the 99% of winbox users who don't know the first thing about system security.
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08-12-2004, 01:10 PM
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Installed it at work, while the majority of our clients are on holiday so we can iron out any problems, went well onto 35 machines, but on one machine it screwed up, I don't know why, SP1 was fine, but for some reason it didn't like it. Bare in mind this machine was unique, all the others were bulk buys, and we have 3 generations of them. It seemed OK, but I turned off the security center, as it was not good, IMO, and all programs worked fine.
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08-12-2004, 04:51 PM
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Success on two machines. I'd installed all individual patches up to the point was released.
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08-12-2004, 06:55 PM
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Success on my two home computers. The poll doesn't seem to represent the posts on this forum lately.
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08-12-2004, 07:31 PM
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I have installed on 5 machines with no problems. yet. All machines had the previous updates before the SP2 release.
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08-13-2004, 03:23 AM
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I went to microsft's website and I can't find where to download SP2. I went to the download center and did windows update, and it says there are no updates availiable for my machine except old nvidia drivers and language packs. How do I get SP2?
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08-13-2004, 04:30 AM
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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
I installed Windows XP SP2 on my computer, updating it from SP2 RC2 and it works fine. Today I want to slipstream it and do a clean install on both machines. RJ
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08-13-2004, 04:34 AM
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No problem with SP2 on my PC.
I voted yes to both the "Critical/SP2 updates" and "Wait for others". Reason. I have always installed critical updates when ready. I waited a few days on SP2 until I had read some experiences on this forum. Now to put it on my other PC. Chas
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08-13-2004, 04:53 AM
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no problem instaling it here. I've put it on two machines so far and the only hitch is that it takes longer to install than I thought.. but that by no means makes it a failed installation.
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08-13-2004, 10:36 AM
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08-13-2004, 01:42 PM
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Finally I slipstreamed SP2 into XP and created a new CD. With this CD I did a clean install on my mom's PC (she had SP2 RC2) and it worked well. Even better than RC2.
No programs gave me any problems. With RC2 I had to use the compatiblity mode to get Word 97 installed, but this time with the final, there was no problem. So SP2 is working fine on 2 machines here. . but I will do a clean install on mine anyway .. maybe tomorrow.. . one PC today was enough. . . RJ |
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08-13-2004, 02:03 PM
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Two questions please......
First, why did everyone put this current update on their personal computers? MS stated that SP2 for single computers isn't out yet. Is this a ploy of MS not to over load their site or is their dangers for a novice like myself if I install it into my personal computer.
Second, what is 'slipstreaming"? Thanks everyone. Each time I come here I get educated!!! You people are great! |
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08-13-2004, 02:09 PM
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IMO doing it in two downloads is just a way for MS to not overload there site, as you said, slipstreaming is creating a new XP install CD with SP2 on it so when you install windows XP after a format SP2 will already have been installed. It is not dangerous to install on one computer.
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08-13-2004, 03:04 PM
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By saying that it's not for a single PC and that the "version" for a single PC is due to be out soon, it's really this: The "single PC version" contains of course the same files, but will be downloaded in the background when you are online, and it will only update what hasn't been updated yet, for example through Windows update (I mean, if you use Windows Update frequently, you will sure have quite some patches that are also included in SP2, so they won't be downloaded again). And I guess it's also easier for the novices, because they just need to be online and eventually they'll have SP2 complete. But that has IMHO a serious disadvantage: Windows gets updated in the background, directly from the web. You don't have the files, so if you reinstall you have to go through the whole process again. The 260 MB SP2 that M$ claims being only for "IT experts and multiple computers", is the complete SP2. You can download it, and then you have it on your hard drive. You can then update your current Windows XP, and you can also slipstream it, which is not possible with the "version for a single PC". Slipstreaming means the integration of the SP2 into your Windows CD. All old files will be replaced by the new ones. So you just copy the contents of the Windows CD onto your hard drive, slipstream the SP2 into it (there are many guides about that), burn a new Windows XP CD, and then, using that CD, whenever you reinstall Windows it's already SP2, because the pre-SP2 files don't exist anymore. You have a clean Windows XP SP2. RJ Last edited by RJ; 08-13-2004 at 03:12 PM. |
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08-13-2004, 03:38 PM
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I slipstream and reinstalled. The only thing that I've noticed the past couple of days is that it sometimes gets difficult to connect to BearShare. Maybe it's just a BearShare problem not associated with XP SP2...coincidence.
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08-13-2004, 05:33 PM
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WOW, thanks RJ.
Thanks for the explaination to this update!
I did a search on Google as you suggested, and came upon this site. It is easy to understand and may be of benefit to others, even I can do it now, I THINK :-) Rich http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp |
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08-15-2004, 07:01 AM
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So far so good on 2 computers at work. I use Shavlik HFNetChkPro to push out patches to workstations. It took about 30 minutes per machine to load the SP and I had to add a group policy to alter the firewall rules. So far so good although I experience some slowness on one of the workstations yesterday which may or may not be attributed to the SP.
It actually showed that scanned machines were lacking 3 SP's, XP SP2, IE SP2 and another.
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08-15-2004, 08:04 PM
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Had no problems installing it on 1 machine at all, installation was real smooth, but I didn't see a big difference,except the security is tighter, the popupblcoker, and a very small performance increase, slightly faster when opening programs. Same services still run in the background, so it didn't take care of that.
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08-15-2004, 11:44 PM
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SP-2 on five machines, no issues at all.
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08-16-2004, 07:16 PM
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Update
Hope this is OK in this thread...
Machine #6 was a failure. SP-2 hung near the end of install. Had to shut down, system became unstable and advised to un-install. I should mention this was on an older machine with only 500 MHZ processor and limited drive space. Have not retried yet. If further problems ensue, I will post in new thread. -Kev |
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08-16-2004, 07:26 PM
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just installed on this machine, and its turned out fine. StyleXp said it wasn't working but it worked after the second try so i don't know. It installed fine and most often used programs work so far.
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08-17-2004, 09:14 AM
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I have installed sp2 on 6 machines so far. Some were repair installs with the sp slipstreamed and some were just applying the update. No problems with either method.
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08-17-2004, 05:53 PM
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No problems for me in any department!!! Everything went smooth and by the numbers !!
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08-18-2004, 10:39 AM
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Well, my main hard drive Deathstar 120GXP died yesterday (
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08-18-2004, 11:32 AM
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Installed on 2 computers at home about a week ago. So far everything is working great. No problems at all. Also, I get my updates immediately.
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When I did my initial install, it was a slipstreamed install with RC2. Perhaps that is what caused the problem. I did a repair install with sp2 slipstreamed and that installed fine.
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