longhorn release

[Yuanji]

longhorn is set to release in 2006 but i'm kinda dissappointed that i'll probably need to upgrade by then to a 64 bit CPU. i'm pretty sure XP will still be usable for gaming but what are you guys gnna do? Upgrade immedietly or wait a year or 2?

[KilluminatiStyle]

....haven't really thought of it yet....but...

I suppose that Longhorn might be a good EXCUSE to upgrade.....

[kstatefan40]

I will go 64 bit when there is a good assortment of programs availible for it. Longhorn isnt gonna be the only thing that will influence it. Right now, most programs do not use any 64 bit extensions and I see no need to upgrade. When it becomes mainstream and affordable, I might be more interested. You won't have to worry about it yet though.

[thefultonhow]

Originally Posted by Yuanji longhorn is set to release in 2006 but i'm kinda dissappointed that i'll probably need to upgrade by then to a 64 bit CPU. i'm pretty sure XP will still be usable for gaming but what are you guys gnna do? Upgrade immedietly or wait a year or 2?

IIRC, Longhorn doesn't require a 64-bit PC. The only crazy system requirement is a DX9.0-compliant graphics card.

[Yuanji]

hmm.... sweet kinda gimmicky with the 3d thing and will prolly require a RAM update... damn you M$ stop making us spend money!

[thefultonhow]

Originally Posted by Yuanji hmm.... sweet kinda gimmicky with the 3d thing and will prolly require a RAM update... damn you M$ stop making us spend money!

LOL, the problem is that XP doesn't have demanding enough system requirements. My grandmother's 550 MHz PIII is smoking with XP and 320 MB of RAM. MS has gotta help the hardware manufacturers sell PCs or else the manufacturers go under and MS loses one of their main revenue streams.

[MrAustin]

I'm going to run my current system into the ground. It'll run Longhorn with no problems. That is, if I choose to migrate to Longhorn...

[roomwithamoose]

I'll probably use it as and excuse to upgrade. Who knows what AMD will have out in 2 years!

[TheJackal]

By the time Longhorn comes out I'll be seriously considering the switch to Linux.

[ric449]

Originally Posted by TheJackal By the time Longhorn comes out I'll be seriously considering the switch to Linux.

Why's that?

Longhorn, in my opinion, is a breakthrough. Everyone who doesn't know much about computers will want the newest OS, and if they can't have it will want a new computer sooner or later.

As for 64 bit, I'm not sure what the plans are. I heard that it will support both 64 bit instructions, X86-64/IA32e, and Itanium's IA64. Since Itanium is coming down to Xeon price level, who knows what could happen? Itanium is the highest performing processor from Intel, and kicks other server chips including Opteron, but its just way to expensive. Another setback is that it can run 32 bit software, but it relies on a software component in the OS to convert the 32 bit code to 64 bit. This slows 32 bit code down severely, but Longhorn may change it. We will have to wait and see.

[TheJackal]

Originally Posted by ric449 Why's that?

Hopefully by 2006 either there will be professional quality video editing software available for the Linux platform, or there will be a Windows emulator good enough that I can run Adobe Premiere on Linux, so that I can make the jump.

Im rather tired of worrying about security holes and what odd licensing scheme Microsoft will come out with next.

[kilgoretrout]

Quote ric449: "Longhorn, in my opinion, is a breakthrough."

How do you get that; no one's even seen it yet except for some betas. Longhorn was suppose to have all this breakthrough technology, winfs, advanced grahics, etc, but that stuff will now not be in longhorn per MS's recent announcements in order to meet the 2006 release date. All this begs the question, what exactly will be in longhorn. It's beginning to look like winxp with some new eye candy and enhaced security. In short:

winme is to win98se as longhorn will be to winxp.

Not a very bright prospect IMHO. This is a very predictable scenario for MS; they do it every time. Announce new OS or application coming out "soon" that will have all this great new technology. Next, announce that the release will be delayed but again hype this new tech which is supposedly better than any competing product currently on the market. More delays, more hype. Announce greatly reduced feature set coming out "soon". This stuff never ends with these guys; they've been doing it for years.
My guess is the release after longhorn will be the real longhorn as originally contemplated or at least hyped. The 2006 longhorn will be like winme; just something new to sell to the unsuspecting till the real longhorn is done.

[palloco]

Originally Posted by kilgoretrout winme is to win98se as longhorn will be to winxp.

LOL, That is what I was gonna say. In any case, I will stay with my K6-III and w98se for a long time.

[TheJackal]

Originally Posted by kilgoretrout My guess is the release after longhorn will be the real longhorn as originally contemplated or at least hyped. The 2006 longhorn will be like winme; just something new to sell to the unsuspecting till the real longhorn is done.

Will there be a release after Longhorn or could Longhorn in fact be the undoing of Microsoft?

They have spent so much money in development of Longhorn and now them planning on releasing a scaled down version, will they really turn a profit off of Longhorn... How many computer users will really upgrade. If the price is anything like the current price of a Windows XP upgrade (in canada $299.99 for Home and $499.99cdn for Pro) who would shell out the cash?

[Yuanji]

OS always costs around that much in retail versions

[TheJackal]

Originally Posted by Yuanji OS always costs around that much in retail versions

You cant get an OEM upgrade version... So is it really worth $300-500 bucks for something that has limited benefits over XP?

The question still stands: Who is gonna buy it when it comes out unless its gonna be as big a jump as we saw with 98SE-to-XP?

[Yuanji]

Originally Posted by TheJackal You cant get an OEM upgrade version... So is it really worth $300-500 bucks for something that has limited benefits over XP? The question still stands: Who is gonna buy it when it comes out unless its gonna be as big a jump as we saw with 98SE-to-XP?

get the full version then =\ when i said upgrade i mean in the sense that you would stop using XP and convert to longhorn by any means.

[TheJackal]

Maybe I wasnt clear...

What I was trying to say was that there is no way for users who have already shelled out nearly a hundred bucks for their current Windows XP installation to cheaply upgrade to something that currently is really no better then what they have right now.

[Yuanji]

oh ok hmm oh well people will still buiy it so goes the way of microsoft

[ric449]

It depends.. If it has the features it says it has, and it is stable, then it will be a great OS. I think Microsoft learnt from the Windows ME fiasco, so I doubt we will see the same situation MS had with that OS.

[ogrerocks]

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...rget2006PR.asp

Microsoft Corp. today announced it will target broad availability of the Windows® client operating system code-named "Longhorn" in 2006, and make key elements of the Windows WinFXTM developer platform in "Longhorn" available for Windows XP and Windows ServerTM 2003.

If the 'key elements are gonna eb available for XP, then what does longhorn have that XP doesn't. I'm just re-itterating what everyone has said, but backing it up a little more.

[Yuanji]

it has a pretty new interface? probably just beefed up security

[TheJackal]

Originally Posted by Yuanji it has a pretty new interface?

I aint gonna shell out my hard earned cash for a pretty (resource sucking) new interface when I already have pretty near the same features and security with XP.

[Yuanji]

Originally Posted by TheJackal I aint gonna shell out my hard earned cash for a pretty (resource sucking) new interface when I already have pretty near the same features and security with XP.

i guess we'll see what longhorn can do when it comes out if its just a new interface and added security it will be a big letdown for me.

[kg3]

im sure microsoft will make a profit all the prorietary computer makers(dell, hp ibm ect) willl use it because in most times the people buying those pc dont know ne better

[longhorn]

is pentium 5 gonna be 64 bit
i no it will be 5-7ghz microprosseser and all 1000fbs
but is it gonna be 64 bit

[Yuanji]

Originally Posted by longhorn is pentium 5 gonna be 64 bit i no it will be 5-7ghz microprosseser and all 1000fbs but is it gonna be 64 bit

not sure what you mean cuz they are already developing 64 bit P4s and the newer p4s coming out next year are gnna be 1066FBS but Intel is definately gnna make 64 Bit CPUs a little bit before 64 bit APPs go mainstream

[ric449]

The F series Pentium 4's are 64 bit, and are available right now. Right now, they are aimed at workstations. You will probably be able to buy them sometime later this year.

[Yuanji]

Originally Posted by ric449 The F series Pentium 4's are 64 bit, and are available right now. Right now, they are aimed at workstations. You will probably be able to buy them sometime later this year.

yeah i saw something along the lines of thie on "The Screen Savers"

[longhorn]

ya but they r gonna be like an extreme edition
and cost 1000$