Startup takes 5 minutes, ***?

[i1t4yomindi]

well i recently installed 2 versions of webposition. it asked for me to restart so i did. after the window screen, it takes about 4 minutes for it to load my desktop.

i unistalled both programs although getting some difficulties because i think installing two versions of the same program might have caused a regitry problem. but i succesfully installed both, i hope.

i cleaned my computer with spybot, yahoo antispy and ad-aware. defragmented and cleaned my registry with regseeker.

i restarted my computer and the same thing, it stalls after the window screen.

how do i fix this? because before installing webposition, it only took like 1 minute to start up.

i notice a some new files by netiq corporation. are those suppose to be in my system folder?

[GaryRouth]

The Netiq (sometimes presented NetIQ) files are probably leftovers from the "webposition" software.

You might:
1) Check with Windows Explorer to see if all the folders for the webposition software are truly removed from the Program Files and Windows folders, and that no other NetIQ folders are on the C drive.
2) If your system doesn't have MS Office 2000 installed, you could try a run of RegClean 4.1 - the Microsoft Win95/98 Registry Cleaner. [It's incompatible with Office 2000]. This might eliminate a few things your other cleaner missed. [RegClean's over at download.com and many other sites]
3) Check in msconfig to make sure that nothing is loading at startup that you don't want loading.
4) If it's not obvious from msconfig where something is loading from, go to the Start/Run box and try msinfo32 and look in the Software Environment/Startup sections. There's a column for where the startup processes are called from (the exact location, makes them easier to eradicate when unwanted).
5) If performance still suffers, even though you've tried Registry Cleaners - you can try manually searching through the Registry for NetIQ entries and removing them, then -
6) If system files still aren't right after all that, you could try an over-the-top, but then you'll need to go straight to Windows Update for the Security Updates. http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=70846

Make backups before any Registry editing, of course.
. . . Gary

[P.S. . . . one more option, if you have a Registry saved from before you tried webposition, is to boot into DOS (you can use your Win98 CD to do this: boot from the CD and choose "start computer with CD support" or "start computer without CD support" both will start DOS) and from the command prompt, type scanreg/restore and choose a Registry older than the webposition install date]

[i1t4yomindi]

I check all the files, their are no folders, but the netiq files are in my systems folder not on its own.

It says created yesterday but modified like in 2002.

Check startup aswell.

For the Regcleaner, i am running office xp, will that cause a problem?

[GaryRouth]

Not sure if RegClean is incompatible with Office XP - but to play it safe, stick with your 3rd-party registry cleaner. [It's only the Microsoft "RegClean" that is incompatible with Office 2000. 3rd-party cleaners are usually kept up-to-date better]

To test the registry idea, you can try the scanreg/restore option - Win98 saves at least 5 copies of the registry - one might be old enough to be pre-webposition. If not, you can exit out without changing anything.

To check on the files, make a list of all that show NetIQ as the source, then search to see if there are MS versions of the same files on your Windows CD. If they look like some of them might be versions of standard IE files, you can try a repair reinstall of IE, which might replace MS versions - or download a fresh copy from with Windows Update or the Download center. You can also use System File Checker to extract a file to the system folder if you have a copy of a known good MS file [you select the box "extract one file from disk" and then browse to your file] (. . . If you haven't used System File Checker before, the easy way to start it is from the Start/Run box, type sfc . . . It's also in Start/Programs/Accessories/SystemTools/System Information - in the "Tools" menu, select "System File Checker" . . . )

Just curious, if you use the "find" option in regedit's "Edit" menu in the toolbar, do you find many NetIQ values? (you'd type NetIQ into the "find" dialog box to have it search for instances). Many registry cleaners are quite conservative (understandably).

. . . Gary