Out of viritual memory & long shutdown

[videobruce]

Running 2k w/sp4, I formatted and reloaded the O/S
Updates drivers and software.
Loaded my most used programs.
Set everything up as I usually do and have done for the past couple of years.
I have 13 processes loaded at startup.

There are 2 program I use all the time; Opera and ThumbsPlus as I have for probably 5 years.

All of a sudden I'm getting out of virtual memory warnings and evry long shutdown times (30 to 60+ seconds when it use to be less than 10 seconds) if I use these programs for a while. I can start the system and then shut it down without doing anything all is fine. NO hangs.

I'm not sure it is either of these programs, it's just that I use these all the time. I looked at task manager but the memory usage of the processes doesn't add up to that amount. Example; as I type this the process total shows 180700, but the memory usage in Task Manager shows 267400.

I have run SpyBot and my antivirus program (updated) and both are clean. Any ideas?

[glc]

Opera is a memory hog, it can eat as much as 160 megs. Before shutting down, close Opera and wait a few minutes for it to clear itself. It helps if you set the Opera preferences to empty cache on exit and wait for the hard drive to stop chattering before you do anything else.

How much physical ram do you have?

[videobruce]

I forgot to add that I set my file to start at 100MB and limit it to 300MB.
Now before you say that's the problem, I have done this since I started using 2k about 2 years ago with NO problem.
ANYWAY, I have increased the size twice to 700MB and it still barks at me!

As far as the shutdown, it never did this before. I have never had long shutdown issues before (that I remember, or at least this consistant).

When I ran those numbers, Opera was using around 136000.

I have 512MB of RAM and I do close all my programs including Opera, but I don't wait since I never had to. As far as it being a hog, it can't be, it's not a M$ program!

[videobruce]

I also ran UHP Clean from M$ suggested by someone else. This result was from a long (bad) shutdown:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: UPHClean
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1501
Date: 12/26/2004
Time: 1:33:45 PM
User: VIDEOBRUCE1\Videobruce
Computer: VIDEOBRUCE1
Description:
The following handles opened in user profile hive VIDEOBRUCE1\Videobruce (S-1-5-21-507921405-162531612-725345543-500) are preventing the profile from unloading:

svchost.exe (412)
HKCU\Software\Classes (0x3b8)
0x7c31ad46 ADVAPI32!

0x7c2d2183 ADVAPI32!RegOpenKeyExW+0xd7

0x7619c07c rpcss!

0x7619ab2f rpcss!

0x7619a634 rpcss!

0x7619b769 rpcss!

0x7619b4f9 rpcss!

0x7619b422 rpcss!

0x77d36ce8 RPCRT4!CheckVerificationTrailer+0x7a

0x77d93583 RPCRT4!NdrStubCall2+0x583

0x77d938ea RPCRT4!NdrServerCall2+0x17

0x77d36067 RPCRT4!NdrClientInitialize+0x304

0x77d35fad RPCRT4!NdrClientInitialize+0x24a

0x77d35ebf RPCRT4!NdrClientInitialize+0x15c

0x77d3858e RPCRT4!NDRCContextMarshall+0x1526

0x77d38123 RPCRT4!NDRCContextMarshall+0x10bb

0x77d3dc26 RPCRT4!RpcBindingSetOption+0x8ff

0x77d3d9db RPCRT4!RpcBindingSetOption+0x6b4

0x77d3dd0b RPCRT4!RpcBindingSetOption+0x9e4

0x7c4e987c KERNEL32!SetThreadExecutionState+0x227

[glc]

Care to post a HijackThis log? If so, please read the sticky thread in the Security forum first.

[videobruce]

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.0
Scan saved at 9:25:38 AM, on 12/27/2004
Platform: Windows 2000 SP4 (WinNT 5.00.2195)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v5.00 SP4 (5.00.2920.0000)

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\SYSTEM~1\MXTask.exe
E:\uphclean.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM\WinMgmt.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\MyHD\MyIRC.exe
C:\Program Files\Opera V75\opera.exe
E:\Backup Programs1\Hijack This V199\HijackThis V199.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe Acrobat 6\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program Files\Spybot V13b\SDHelper.dll
O3 - Toolbar: @msdxmLC.dll,-1@1033,&Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINNT\system32\msdxm.ocx
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Synchronization Manager] mobsync.exe /logon
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Fix-It AV] C:\PROGRA~1\SYSTEM~1\MemCheck.exe
O4 - Global Startup: MyIRC.lnk = C:\Program Files\MyHD\MyIRC.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: LimeShop Preferences - file://C:\Program Files\LimeShop\System\Temp\limeshop_script0.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java RE 1.4.2_04\bin\npjpi142_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java RE 1.4.2_04\bin\npjpi142_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINNT\web\related.htm
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINNT\web\related.htm
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{58853240-5DCF-4B22-B4E2-7A101E2DCF8C}: NameServer = 192.168.0.1
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - Unknown - C:\WINNT\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown - C:\WINNT\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service - VERITAS Software Corp. - C:\WINNT\System32\dmadmin.exe
O23 - Service: SystemSuite Task Manager - V Communications, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\SYSTEM~1\MXTask.exe


Questions?
(The MyIRC is a HD Tuner Card scheduling agent and MX Task is the virus scanner)).

[glc]

I would be suspicious of both those processes. You could manually shut each one down before shutting Windows down and see if it makes a difference. To shut down mxtask, you may have to shut the service down - it may not allow you to simply end process.

Check your versions of both these programs - see if there are any updates that fix issues - such as memory leaks.

[videobruce]

All of those I haven't had a problem with before!
It seems to be when I'm in Opera for a while and have d/l'ed many jpegs. That seems to be when I have the issues. Those two other programs have been fine with the last reload of the O/S a year or so ago. All of this just started whehn I reformatted THIS time! Nothing in the system changed (programs or otherwise).

[glc]

That's when Opera leaks like a sieve. You using the latest Opera and Java (7.54u1 and 1.4.2_06)?

[videobruce]

Yes.
A memory leak is just memory that was used and not needed anymore, but isn't released back to the O/S?

How about a issue with the UDP from nVidia for their nForce2 chipsets? Especially the memory controller? I had the older version from a year ago that I just updated to the latest version. It is still doing it.