Blue Screen.....

[Karthik1019]

Hey everybody. I've been inactive for a while now. School really takes away all my time....

Anyhow, this friend of mine who lives at school has an IBM R40 that won't work. It's got WinXP SP2. What happens is that when you turn it on, windows starts to load up, but you don't even get to the log on screen let alone the desktop before the blue screen of death comes up. So of course, we tried booting it up in safe mode, which didn't work. IBM's don't come with a Windows disk, they have all that stuff on a seperate hidden partition on the hard disk. Would using an OEM WinXP disk boot it? I haven't tried. I told him if we can't get anywhere, the best bet would be to reformat. But if we can't even get into windows, I don't see how we can fix anything.... Any ideas? Sorry, I don't have the exact error message, but I'll work on getting it. Thanks.

[Panama Red]

BSOD is often an indication of a hardware problem. Reloading won't fix that. Are you getting an error message whent he bsod occurs? If you post the error message it will point us in the right direction.

[Karthik1019]

Ok. I got the error number.

0x000000ED (0x81AE8A68, 0xC0000006, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

I'll google it and see what I can find.....

[Karthik1019]

This is what Microsoft said:

Stop 0x000000ED or UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME

The kernel mode I/O subsystem attempted to mount the boot volume and it failed. This error might also occur during an upgrade to Windows XP Professional on systems that use higher throughput ATA disks or controllers with incorrect cabling. In some cases, your system might appear to work normally after you restart.

My friend was in fact updating Windows when this happened. The website didn't say much worthwhile stuff about how to fix it. The one thing I did find was to run chkdsl /r from the recovery console. But, like I said before, this is an IBM, and they have the Windows CD stuff preloaded into a secret partition. How do I get to the recovery console??? Can I use a different Windows XP cd?

[glc]

You can boot with any XP CD of the same type (Home or Pro) and same service pack level to use the console. You can also build a BartPE CD and boot with that to do a chkdsk on the hard drive.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

[Karthik1019]

I read the website that you linked to, but I am still unsure of what exactly it is that BartPE does. Does it just create an entire OS on a cd that is bootable? Does the OS run off the CD and somehow have full access to what is on the hard drive? My friends main concern is file recovery.

[glc]

Does the OS run off the CD and somehow have full access to what is on the hard drive?

Exactly. With a laptop, the easiest way to recover the files is to install the Nero plugin (full retail version of Nero required) when you build the CD and burn them - assuming the laptop has a burner. Otherwise, you could pull the hard drive, stick it in a USB housing or into a desktop computer, and get the files off that way. You would need an adapter to connect it to a standard IDE cable.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD-108&cat=HDD

[Karthik1019]

Here's the issue. This is part of the building process.

Start PE Builder (pebuilder.exe). At the main PE Builder dialog, enter the source path to your original Windows XP/2003 Installation/Setup CD.

IBM's don't come with a setup cd. Will any xp pro cd work? IBM adds all kinds of things to the OS, so when you reinstall it off the secret partition, it already has all kinds of programs and altered settings in it.

[macko72]

Requirements to build:

1. The files from your Windows Installation CD-Rom.
Supported Windows versions are:
* Windows XP Home Edition (must be slip streamed with Service Pack 1 or higher)
* Windows XP Professional (must be slip streamed with Service Pack 1 or higher)
* Windows Server 2003, Web Edition
* Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition
* Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition
2. PE Builder runs on Windows 2000/XP/2003/BartPE systems.
3. CD/DVD writer if you want to creat a bootable CD/DVD


Getting started

This section will help you create a basic BartPE CD quickly.

1. Download the latest self-installing package of PE Builder and install it. See the Download section on this page.

2. Start PE Builder (pebuilder.exe). At the main PE Builder dialog, enter the source path to your original Windows XP/2003 Installation/Setup CD. You can use the "..." button to navigate. If your Windows XP is not integrated with service pack 1 or 2, you must slipstream your files first.
Please read Slipstreaming files from the help files to do this.

3. At the main PE Builder dialog, enable the "Create ISO image" and "Burn to CD" option. Select your CD writer device from the Device listbox.
If you use a CDRW media, also check the "Erase CDRW" option.

4. At the main PE Builder dialog, hit the "build" button (or press F7). PE Builder will now ask you to create a directory, answer with "yes".

5. The license for your Windows XP/2003 product is shown. Read it and agree to it to continue.

6. PE Builder will now start building BartPE. This will take a few minutes.
You will see a lot of files getting copied and/or decompressed, the ISO image build and the data recorded to your CD writer.
While burning to your CD writer you will not see any screen changes, just wait for it to finish...

7. When burned OK, boot from the CD!

You can find support on this web site but you have to read thru: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

And yes you can use any XP cd (legal) witch has slipstreamed SP1 or 2 in it!!!

[glc]

You can use any generic OEM, retail, or upgrade XP CD to build the Bart CD except proprietary restore disks. It has nothing to do with a specific machine. CD keys and licensing do not apply here, you are only using the CD for source files.

[Karthik1019]

Ok, thanks, that helps. But one last question, can I use an xp home disk to build a pe disk for xp pro?

[macko72]

No !!!

[glc]

PE is PE. You can use either XP Pro or XP Home, it does not matter. You are not running PE *for* Pro, it's self-contained. PE stands for Portable Executable. I've booted machines from Win98 through XP Pro with my Bart CD that I made with a XP Pro CD on a Win2k machine.

[Karthik1019]

Hi, thanks for all the help glc. I have a disk up and running, but I realized that I can't use a usb flash drive to do transfer off files from the computer. I was a little hesitant to put nero on because I have an OEM version that I got with a cd-burner, not the retail version, but it's still worth a shot. The directions are decently straightforward, but I have a question about it. I copied all the files from the "Nero" directory in the "Ahead" program file to where they belong. Then I went to edit the penero.inf file. I went into regedit to get my serial number. The thing is, in there, I have a Serial5 number and a Serial6 number (I have Nero 6.x). Granted, they are the same thing, but should I put both into the inf file? Also, if I did not specify a company name, (i.e. it is blank), do I just give the inf file an empty string, or a space? thanks for all the help.

[glc]

No idea. I built mine with Nero 5.5.10.56.