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10-19-2005, 07:11 PM
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How do I chk HDD?
Hav read alot about running diagnostics or trouble shooting win98 and hdware but how do u do it? What are the steps? Thnx
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10-19-2005, 07:56 PM
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In win98 it was called scandisk and can be run from dos or the run box..
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10-19-2005, 09:34 PM
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I knew that ;)
What I meant was how do I trble shoot the hardware of a hdd? Scanning reports no problems. Running win98se on a 15g maxtor ata66 and am having terrible boot time. Windows freezes at startup right after the "Starting Windows" Splash. Reformatted and reinstalled it took 24hrs to format c: /s? GLC sd it sounds like hdd is fried? So I am asking is there anything i cn do to fix it if it is not a software or config problem. I don't know what to chk for. Thnx
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10-19-2005, 09:45 PM
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Download the diagnostic software from Maxtor and test your drive with it.
http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/ma...re%20Downloads |
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10-20-2005, 07:04 AM
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because you mentioned win98. I thought i was answering your question, Sorry, but Panama has you covered and it dos not matter what OS cause those harddrive diagnostic utilities usually work via boot floppy..
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10-22-2005, 04:03 PM
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Hav a Dualboot win98se and Slack both hav their own hdd. To run the Powermate hdd diagnostic, do I hav to disconnect my slackware hdd even though I hav not setup the dual boot menu yet? Thnx
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10-22-2005, 07:15 PM
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No. The Powermax menu will let you choose which drive to test. You boot with the floppy.
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10-23-2005, 11:22 AM
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Any Soyo Mobo HPT366 Users?
Interesting... I hav a SY6BA+IV Mobo which is supose to be running HighPoint 366 drivers or something, ATA 66 HDD, PIII600SEC CPU. In my bios and device manager appropriate settings r displayed and Powermax.exe diagnostic results display:
HPT370 Primary Master No Device Found HPT370 Primary Slave No Device Found HPT370 Secondary Master No Device Found HPT370 Secondary Slave No Device Found HPT370-1 Primary Master No Device Found HPT370-1 Primary Slave No Device Found HPT370-1 Secondary Primary No Device Found HPT370-1 Secondary Slave No Device Found PIIX4 Primary Master Asus CD-S520n/A PIIX4 Primary Slave No Device Found PIIX4 Secondary Master Plextor CD- R PXw8432T PIIX4 Secondary Slave No Device Found HPT370-1 Secondary Slave No Device Found I could not find HPT370 w/ Explorer's Find Appy? Please help explain how to fix this. Thnx Last edited by nightsky; 10-23-2005 at 12:14 PM. |
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10-23-2005, 11:48 AM
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The HPT370 is the raid controller. I'd pull the drive and install it in another computer with a conventional IDE controller to run the diags, looks like Powermax doesn't have the ability to see a drive on the HPT370 when booted with the Powermax floppy.
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10-23-2005, 12:09 PM
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I dont hav any raid drives just ata66. My system ought to be setup w/ hpt366 not hpt370? Plz consider settings under Device Manager:
Disk Drive: Maxtor 51024u2 Maxtor 51536U3 Driver Display: Driver Standard Disk Drives 1999 Hard Disk Controllers: Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo) Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo) Seems like my Soyo Mobo HPT366 Drivers, Disk Drivers, CPU info and ms win98se software dont match and r not communicating. Thnx |
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10-23-2005, 01:17 PM
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You NEED to run diags on that hard drive BEFORE you start messing with drivers and that stuff.
HPT366, HPT370 - doesn't make a difference. At the DOS boot level, it makes NO difference what you have for controllers - they are either seen or they aren't. A terribly slow boot is almost ALWAYS a failing hard drive. Been there done that MANY times in the past 10 years. |
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10-23-2005, 08:39 PM
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Thanxs GLC, unfortunately I do not hav a second older PC. And the warranty ran out this month on the HDD.. Sorry about starting a Soyo mobo drvr specific
thread... feel free to delete it. Thnxs again |
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10-23-2005, 10:26 PM
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Hang the drive on one of the PIIX4 controllers to run diags then - disconnect one of the opticals. Simple and quick cable swap.
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10-23-2005, 11:02 PM
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Sorry GLC, but what is the PIIX4 Controller cable and what r the optical cables?
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10-24-2005, 12:01 AM
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Okay - you say that you have 2 hard drives? The Powermax report you posted show NEITHER, so I'm assuming that Powermax is not compatible with your HPT controllers, and both hard drives are connected to the HPT controllers.
The PIIX4 controller is the standard Intel IDE controller, and it looks like you have 2 of them - you have an optical drive connected to each one. Optical drive = CD-Rom drive, CD burner, etc. What you need to do is disconnect the IDE cables from the hard drives, mark them so you know what goes where, and let them hang, then disconnect the IDE cables from the optical drives and put them on the hard drives. Then boot up with the Powermax disk and see if the drives are seen and run diagnostics on them. |
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10-24-2005, 02:33 AM
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Thnx Glc, Got it... the second hdd is my slack8 which works fine... so i dont nd to test it. Just win hdd.
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10-24-2005, 10:26 AM
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As long as you are running diags, it would not hurt to test BOTH.
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10-25-2005, 03:31 PM
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Nightsky,
I have the same board as you. Currently it's running XP Pro on the normal ata33 channel. On boot, when the HPT366 screen shows up (the blue one), what is the BIOS version number (seen on the top of the screen) ?? The latest is V1.25! It can still be found on the Soyo site if needs be. However & in MY experience I wouldn't use the ata66 controller. I have tried it with Windows 2000 & Windows XP Pro. I timed boot time with 2000 on both the normal IDE controller & the ata66. The ata66 was SLOWER! I tried the ata66 controller with XP and it was very unstable even with the latest BIOS & Windows 2000 drivers (none for XP) for the controller. To continue & again in MY experience getting 98se to work on this board was a nightmare. I never got it to install up to a working level. Everytime I installed a driver I get a 98se blue screen with a prompt to 'press enter to continue'. At that time I switched to Windows ME which installed & ran fine. Perhaps your drive is dying. It happens to us all from time to time. However, as I've said from experience, 98se & this board don't seem to get along & the ata66 channel is dodgey at best. Having said that this PC is up & running over six years, with a few major upgrades, and is now running XP Pro on the ata33 channel with no issues at all. It my workhorse anyway  My advice in a nutshell......drop 98se & don't use the ata66 controller. Take the advice that glc has given first though. You won't notice any huge performance loss by not using the HPT366 controller but you may see some instability creeping in BY using it. I quickly lost faith in the HPT366 controller. It's not faster from what I have seen & just adds another layer of problems. The url for the BIOS update is available here: http://www.soyogroup.com/downloads/f...c5fefee9f47e39 Again, this is just from my experience using all Microsoft OS's from 95 to XP on this particular board. 98se was a bugbear to put it mildly. I hope you have more success than I did which wouldn't be hard. Try XP Home or Pro. I'm living proof that the board is fantastic & with 512 Mb of RAM (somewhat small nowadays but it will take 1Gb) an older motherboard can still hold its' own. Last edited by fredwest; 10-25-2005 at 04:18 PM. |
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10-25-2005, 05:24 PM
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It's too bad - I just put together a system for someone with an Abit BX-133 RAID board with a HPT372. The hard drive is on the 372 and it's running Win2k like a CHAMP. I guess the 366 was just a turkey.
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10-26-2005, 02:41 PM
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glc,
This was the first PC I built with the help of your good self & reboot & all those who contributed to help me get this baby off the ground. And I've never looked back since. (Quick thanks to all I pestered during the summer of 2000) It is too bad but at the time (1999/2000) ata66 was amazing.....and you could have eight IDE devices in your PC which was, at the time, unheard of! I didn't buy the board for that though. At the time Asus & Abit boards weren't being imported & the internet was still a young puppy. I bought the most expensive board I could that fitted my needs (it had two ISA slots, remember them?) from one of my fave PC stores (In todays prices US$ 230). It's a small business i dealt with & sometimes still do today for hard-to-get-stuff. They had to order the Soyo especially. But they couldn't get the Asus etc. Lots of good things can be said about this board. If anyone is looking to buy a used PC with a Soyo 6BA+IV motherboard (with the latest BIOS) I would recommend it. However, mine is not for sale. It's had more graphics, memory, hdd, cd/rw/dvd/ you name it upgrades. It won't play games anymore due to its' vintage.....now I'm getting sentimental Great board (except for the ata66 controller) to be used with a 'good' OS. And in my experience that statement automatically excludes 98SE. I use it every day....& it STILL works perfectly.... THE END Last edited by fredwest; 10-26-2005 at 03:10 PM. |
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10-31-2005, 12:01 PM
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wow... 98se has run fine for 5yrs til now w/hpt 366??? Plus its a dualboot. HDD is spinning way slow according to pitstop. I held it in my hand and hardly hear it spiinning. Only hdd out in the store are 160g segate ata 100 ... can a replace my ata66 w/ ata 100 hdd? R the hdd backward compatible. The hdd is only $40.oo Or can I open this hdd up oil and clean any dust out? Nd low cost hdd quick! Llike now. Thnx
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10-31-2005, 08:26 PM
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No, you cannot repair a hard drive. Yes, you can use an ATA100 hard drive. I don't know if the HPT bios can see a 160gb drive but I KNOW it will see a 120. Win98 also has a size limitation making a 160 not such a good choice, you would have to partition it.
You still haven't told us what Powermax says about your drives. |
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11-01-2005, 09:52 AM
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Diagnosis, found not problems till I tried lower format hdd was just spinning way too slow which is y i supected the Dirtdevil and asked if i cld go in there and do sm dusting. Any way I got the Segate Baracuda 160gb drive fdisked it and formatted it but I did not partition it into logical extensions. win98 recognized the drive w/o problems other than it only reports formating 65,53.34m whatever
that means. Hdware resources shows: Windows managed Swap file on C (130586m) of 131037mb (fat32). I can add a logical extension later;right? when I figure what project to start w/all this disk space. Right now I have a Nvidia GeForce 2GTS 32mb PCI driver installation problem, for another post. I forgot what I did to install drivers on old hdd and where i got the drivers from. Thnx |
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11-01-2005, 10:09 AM
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Go in where and do some dusting? Hard drives are hermetically sealed.
Does FDISK see any space left on the drive? If the bios on the HPT sees the whole drive, there should be about 20 to 25 megs of space open for an extended partition. |
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11-01-2005, 12:08 PM
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GLC,
lolo, wld hav been something if i had gone ahead and tried to open the old hdd to dust in it. I jst figured it must be dust slowing the spinning of that maxtor. Let me see what fdisk has to say  I do not understand haha Getting full use of this 160gb hdd wil hav to wait til i can learn to understand Howto use the HTP BIOS config values and settings. Hav to go away for a wk plus work kp me away frm my beloved pc thnx
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