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Old 03-03-2008, 07:23 AM   #1
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smokin Win-Config problem - ENUM trick loses Network Adapters

I'm using the ENUM trick to install an image of win98se from a 440BX board onto an upgrade, D845 Intel board (same computer). I tested the process with a Dell (also a D845 board, different model, no LAN) and with excellent results. But I've hit a roadblock.

The problem I'm having is, "Network Adapters" fails to appear in Device Manager when all is done. The modem installs, even dials, but doesn't connect. A new dial-up connection did the same. The upgrade board has LAN, the Dell 845 test board did not. I tried using an image from the Dell, but lost Network Adapters and the dial-up adapters anyway ... I can enable LAN and install it, but that slows the boot process. Even then, the dial-up adapters will not appear in Network Adapters (just the LAN).

I tried Windows Setup in Add-Remove Programs, but when I click "Have Disk" and point it to C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS, the install box is blank !

With a prepared image, the entire ENUM install takes about 20 minutes. So I tried again and again, but no luck. Flashed the bios, now very fast, but still no luck. I feel like the changes made to the board for LAN caused the problem. Once or twice, while attempting to find a solution, a message appeared that the Windows Configuration was wrong.

Any idea what I might do to fix the problem ?
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:32 AM   #2
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Try this:

Start
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INETWIZ

If you don't have all the CAB files in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS, that's not going to work. Put a 98 CD in and point it to that.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:20 PM   #3
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I had a mental block with Windows Setup, but once I de-selected and re-selected, then clicked Apply, everything worked. So I uninstalled all of Communication, then re-installed all of Communication. That brought back all of the adapters and more. Then I put INETWIZ to work, and I think it will be smooth sailing from now on.

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This may not apply to your case but IIRC there were issues with Intel networking on 98 because of missing .INF files that are used to identify the components.
At the time 98 (possibly SE only) came out the solution was to download the files and re-run the network install.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:27 PM   #5
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The image of win98se I used is very complete. But there could have been a few small fixes that weren't listed in Windows Update. It is helpful to extract "infinst_enu.exe" for the new board to partition D, and the very 1st time Windows asks, point it to the correct INF folder. This way, everything is correct from the start (the win98 INF folder could also be put on a floppy, but the CD-ROM drive won't be recognized till later).

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Infinst_enu is the Intel Chipset Identification Utility. That must be the first driver to be installed.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:48 PM   #7
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Mullardel34: Once or twice, while attempting to find a solution, a message appeared that the Windows Configuration was wrong.

I have a suggestion to include when using the Enum trick.
On the first boot-up, open the Bios to PNP/PCI CONFIGURATION and set "Reset Configuration Data" from DISABLE to ESCD.
This allows the PNP bios to refresh it's configuration according to the hardware changes being made.
The Reset Configuration Data setting will change back to it's default DISABLE setting by itself.
I do this anytime I've added/removed any hardware.
Some bios may have different (but similar) wording for PNP/PCI CONFIGURATION or Reset Configuration Data.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:43 AM   #8
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Initially, I had the jumper on the board set to "Configure" after I flashed the BIOS.

The menu for the basic Intel BIOS on this board has a description that parallels the settings you describe.

Located here:
Advanced > Boot Configuration > Plug & Play O/S > choose (YES or NO)

The description reads:

(No), lets the BIOS configure all the devices in the system.

(Yes), lets the operating system configure Plug and Play (PnP) devices not required for boot, if your system has a Plug and Play operating system.

Though simple and less detailed, I think this BIOS has all the features I need.
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The menu for the basic Intel BIOS on this board has a description that parallels the settings you describe.

Located here:
Advanced > Boot Configuration > Plug & Play O/S > choose (YES or NO)


My Bios has the Plug & Play O/S Yes/No setting too but this is a different setting than the Reset Configuration Data setting.
What doesn't make sense to me is that if you're using a Windows Plug & Play O/S the setting would be always set to YES but going back through the Gigabyte manual it says No is the default setting.
I ran with it set to YES until I got involved in this Win98SE ACPI IRQ Holder issue and found that No is the best setting because Win98SE has an unresolved bug in it's PNP feature.
Gigabyte had to have known about the issue due to thier choice of the NO setting.
Setting Plug & Play O/S to NO doesn't affect the performance of Windows 98 and doesn't seem to affect other PNP options in my Bios.
The Reset Configuration Data setting still does it's job regardless of which setting Plug & Play O/S is set to.
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