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Old 08-27-2008, 02:08 AM   #1
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*** Computer Reboots For No Reason ***

Hi All:

I was having this computer rebooting for no reason for a long time, but it didn't happen every day, but it started getting worse, so I decided to do a clean install.

I booted up with the Win XP Ugrade disk and the installation went really smooth, no errors.

It looked like the problem was solved with this clean install, but in a couple of days of windows downloading the updates, it started again, so I'm at a lose as to what's causing it

Hope you can help me.

I get the same error message every time " Error Signiture"

BCCode: le BCPI: 00000002 BCP2: 82253980 BCP3: 82130458

BCP4: 8204AC98 OSV: 5_1_2600 SP: 3_0 Product: 256_1

This message don't mean anything to me, maybe someone else knows what it means.

I downloaded a Scan and Repair program and ran it, it found a bunch of errors and corrected them, but I still have the sam problem. ( Program AWCSetup )

Let me know if you have any ideas as to what I need to do.
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:42 AM   #2
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Control panel, system, advanced, startup and recovery. Uncheck restart on error. It should bluescreen instead of rebooting, and the bluescreen will give you much better clues than that message.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:01 AM   #3
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Hi glc:

My system is a little different, Control Panel, Preformance and Maintenance, System, Advanced Tab, Settings Button, In the System Failure Box I unchecked Automatic Restart.

This time whem the problem occured it didn't give me a blue screen, it gave me a black screen, I waited a while and hit the restart button, no error message just restarted as normal.

I hope I unchecked the right box, I didn't see any ( Uncheck restart on error ) box.

What now ?

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Old 08-27-2008, 04:06 AM   #4
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Hi Again:

I forgot to tell you, if I let the system reboot and don't touch anything, it will reboot every 14 min's.

I let it do this for a long time just to see what was going on.

See you tomarrow
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I would run memtest86 found at: www.memtest86.com or download and burn the .iso image of UBCD found here: www.ultimatebootcd.com

UBCD also contains memtest86
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In the System Failure Box I unchecked Automatic Restart.
That's correct.

This almost sounds like viral behavior.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:46 PM   #7
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Okay, I rsn the Memtest_86 V3.4 from a floppy, it said " Pass complete, no errors "

On rebooting I set my bios to boot back to boot from hard drive 0 and got out, during startup I got the blue screen, it said " A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer ( BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER )

Technical Information: Stop: 0x0000000fe ( 0x00000005, ox821310e0, ox10330025, ox821b9050 )

I went in in Safe Mode and in Device Manager I found a USB device with a yellow question mark.
I disabled it.

Computer started up normal, so far it hasn't rebooted on it's own.

I think I have too mant USB devices installed, USB for the DSL, Printer, 3 external hard drives, Kodak camera, Quick Cam, Scanner, Film Scanner, PC to PC Link, and maybe something else.

If this is a problem, I'll get a couple of USB switches and turn on whatever I need to use as I need them.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:57 PM   #8
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I'd recommend you use Ethernet instead of USB for your DSL. I would also use Ethernet for PC to PC link (that won't even be necessary if you use a router and set up a simple network) and use a card reader for your Kodak camera instead of connecting the whole camera. Kodak Easy Share is a terrible application that takes over your computer and is excessively bloated.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:21 PM   #9
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Hi glc:

I don't know how to set up an Ethernet or a router.

As for the Kodak camera, I didn't install the software, I just let windows detect the USB and windows reads the pictures and downloads them to my picture folder, it also erases the pictures in the camera if I select that operation.

Anyway, the computer hasn't rebooted since I disabled that USB device.

I'm going to keep an eye on this for a few days, and if no problems, I'll get back to my post on making a backup hard drive.

Thanks for all the input !!, I'll look into an Ethernet and router. I guess they are PCI cards, right?
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:51 PM   #10
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No. They are external devices. What brand and model is your DSL modem? Does your computer have a network adapter?

You need a modem with an Ethernet output, you connect it to a router (unless the modem is also a router) and then connect your computers to it with Ethernet cable.
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Old 08-27-2008, 05:17 PM   #11
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My modem is a Sprint DSL 645M plus ADSL Modem Bridge.

Discription: SP660ME 61 ADSL 2 Plus Modem T1 Chip

Part Number: SP 660ME 61

Item Code: 0000120597

Premier Telecom Products Inc.

In the box I still have an Ethernet cable that I didn't use, I used a USB adaptor wiith a cable, and a floppy disk titled " USB Series USB to 10/100M Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver Disk ".

I looked at an ethermet card at the Computer Geeks ...

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...200-DT&cat=NET

Will this one work?

And do I still need a router?
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What do you have for a computer? Every motherboard I've seen in the past several years has a builtin Ethernet adapter. Converting Ethernet to USB is a very poor way of doing it.

If you want to connect more than one computer to the Internet, and network the computers for file and print sharing, all you need is a router and an Ethernet jack on each computer.
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Your right, My Chaintec S845PE mobo has an RJ-45 Standard Ethernet Jack on it.

Looking in Device Manager I see a Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC that I have disabled.

I guess you'll tell me to get that cable out of the box and hook it up from the Ethernet jack to the modem and remove the USB adaptor, Right?
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Hi glc:

As I posted above, I do have an Ethernet jack, but I haven't switched over yet because I need to order a switch box and another cable to be able to get on line with both computers. I am going to make the change.

I rearranged my USB cabling. I removed a 4 port hub and hooked the cables to a 4 position USB switch, which means that at any giving time, three of the devices that were hooked up need to be selected before using them.

Right now I have, and use all of the following devices ... Quick Cam, Film Scanner, Artek Scanner, Laser printer, Kodak Camera ( only the drivers installed ), PC Link USB, Three USB Exturnal Hard Drives, and of course the the USB Fast Ethernet adapter till I make the switch.

I have a lot of pictures, movies and animations, and I still want to install a video editing card and software.

I thought that I could hook up 127 devices using USB Hubs, not that I would ever need that many. What is wrong with USB? I was still getting the BLUE SCREEN = CODEBUG USB ERROR till I reset the error reporting.
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I Ordered a Ethernet RJ-45 Switch Box and a 5' Cable today ( 08/31/2008 ) should be here in a few days.

Haven't figured out yet how I'm going to use all my USB devices without screwing up the computer.

Maybe I can find a switch box that will give me one input to the computer with maybe 10 selectable ports.
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You need a router, not a switch box. The Sprint modem can only issue one IP address at a time.
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Hi glc:

Right now I have a USB switch box that is connected to computer A Win98, and Computer B WinXP with output to the DSL Modem, it works just fine, I can switch back and forth with no problem.

Both computers connect to my Embarq Home Page when I switch from one to the other. I guess the IP Address is the same for both of them.

That's why I thought an Ethernet Switch would work as well.

How does a router work?
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:33 PM   #18
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The router allows both computers to access the Internet simultaneously AND allows you to set up file and print sharing between the machines. It internally assigns unique local IP addresses to all connected machines and translates them.

You need to get with the times - no offense. Using any kind of switchbox for anything is a thing of the past.

When you get the router working, you can get rid of ALL that USB networking, PC Link, etc. PLEASE get rid of it, it's causing you more problems than you think it's solving. Just because in the past you used parallel port switchboxes does not mean it's a wise thing to do with USB.

If your computer does not have enough USB ports for all your devices, you need an AC-powered USB hub or *LESS* USB devices - *NOT* a switchbox.
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:22 PM   #19
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Hi glc:

Will this router do the job? http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=8220&cmp=ALSOS

Will this cable work with the above router ( Category 5E Patch Cable, RJ45 ) ?

Or if you know of a better or cheaper one, give me the URL

Also my Win98 computer don't have an ethernet port, do I need to get an ethernet card for it? PCI Card.

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Hi glc:

Will this 16 Port USB Hub work for me? http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00560
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1 Yes, but this is a better router:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190

2. Overkill. Not only that, but sharing a USB hub between 2 computers leads to a problem. You can share printers through the network.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817165029 (4 port AC powered)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182057 (7 port AC powered)

3. Network card compatible with Win98:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833130107
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Hi glc:

I ordered the router, 7 Port USB Hub, and the PCI Network Card from Newegg.

Should be here in a few days.

Thanks
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Hi glc:

I know I'm getting old and don't grasp these new gizmos, but why does this router that I ordered have two antennas?

Is it transmitting from one antenna to the other? Or are they for transmitting to and from another router?

The WAN Port is to connect the RJ-45 cable to the Modem, right?

The LAN Ports are to connect the RJ-45 cables from the computers to the Router, right?

Just want to understand and get it set up right.
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The two antennas are for wireless connections. They can be removed if not going to be used.

The modem would connect to the wan port, and the computers would connect to the lan ports. That is correct.
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glc:

Question,

My Chaintec Motherboard has two USB Ports ( 2.0 ), it also has two USB headers on the board that I have hooked up, that gives me four USB Ports that come from the motherboard.

I also have a Belkin Hi-Speed USB PCI card ( 2.0 ) with five ports installed.

My question is, do you want me to remove the Belkin card? And can I leave the two ports that I hooked up to the motherboard USB headers?

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Hi glc:

My Newegg order arrived, but I would like an answer to my above question before hooking up these items.

My desk is hard to move out from the wall to get to the rear to make the hook up, it takes two people to move it, so I'll wait till I hear from you. I hope I'll only need to go back there once :-)
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I'd remove the USB card. Your new hub can hook up to one of the USB ports on the motherboard, and then you should have plenty of USB connections to work with. That card is just one more unnecessary peice of the puzzle.
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Hi Alaron:

Thanks, but can I leave the USB Ports that connect to the USB Headers on the motherboard?
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Sure if you still need them.

You must have a big collection of USB devices.
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