Windows update

[toomyg]

I noticed lately my desktop does not show notifications when new updates are available and when I goto the update site it show my computer needs no updates but at the same time my laptop will show the notifications when new updates are available like the malicious software removale tool thats out every month my desktop won't detect it but my laptop will both are running XP pro sp3 and my desktop was working OK last month and I didnt install any thing and did a spyware & virus scan both clean. Isd there a way to fix this?

[glc]

Maybe you have Windows Update set to automatically download and install updates without notification?

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by glc Maybe you have Windows Update set to automatically download and install updates without notification?

No I checked that

[toomyg]

Is there a way to uninstall the windows update program then reinstall? Is it just in the add/remove?

[glc]

Nope.

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by glc Nope.

Wow I guess that sucks

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by toomyg Wow I guess that sucks

I reinstalled SP3 for XP and all is well again but it will remain a mystery to what happen before.

[glc]

SP3 can do some strange things to Windows Update. I nuked and paved a laptop the other day, installed XP with SP1a from a Dell reinstall CD (yes, it was a Dell laptop), then installed SP3 from my admin download. Windows Update ran fine, but it found no critical updates and only one optional - .NET 1.1. It didn't even find IE7. I manually installed IE7 and tried again - no dice. I then uninstalled SP3 without uninstalling IE7 and that totally broke IE, it wouldn't even start, it just stared at me.

So - nuked and paved again, this time I ran Windows Update immediately and it offered me SP2. I took it, then I ran it again and took IE7. Ran it again, took SP3. Ran it again, took all the criticals, and it's working fine.

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by glc SP3 can do some strange things to Windows Update. I nuked and paved a laptop the other day, installed XP with SP1a from a Dell reinstall CD (yes, it was a Dell laptop), then installed SP3 from my admin download. Windows Update ran fine, but it found no critical updates and only one optional - .NET 1.1. It didn't even find IE7. I manually installed IE7 and tried again - no dice. I then uninstalled SP3 without uninstalling IE7 and that totally broke IE, it wouldn't even start, it just stared at me. So - nuked and paved again, this time I ran Windows Update immediately and it offered me SP2. I took it, then I ran it again and took IE7. Ran it again, took SP3. Ran it again, took all the criticals, and it's working fine.

I know I have some bad story's about this sp3 update but it works on mine and I think there is a certain way you have to do these updates for them to work the right way.

Tom

[draceena01]

I had the same problem with the updates not showing. There is a way to force a reinstall of the update software but it didn't work at all for me. In the end I nuked as well and made sure that the first thing I tried was the SP3 install (I marked down the number of updates before doing so). After the SP3 install, the updater was broken again but I tried the force reinstall and it worked. All updates were there and I am back to getting updates when I should.

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by draceena01 I had the same problem with the updates not showing. There is a way to force a reinstall of the update software but it didn't work at all for me. In the end I nuked as well and made sure that the first thing I tried was the SP3 install (I marked down the number of updates before doing so). After the SP3 install, the updater was broken again but I tried the force reinstall and it worked. All updates were there and I am back to getting updates when I should.

You would think MS would fix this after the 100,000 complaint

[toomyg]

Now I thought updates were working still are I guess but I have a glitch when I turn my desktop or laptop on there is an update that is available and I already updated this too but after a minute the lil icon disappears like my computer say 'OH YA I already updated that' anyone else have this issue?

[glc]

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339

[mikeL]

I followed Kov-Ice sticky, http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=201082
After following the thread windows had at least 10 updates

[Panama Red]

I dscovered something recently after doing an XP repair install. Did the repair with a slipstreamed SP2 disk and rather than going directly to the SP3 file, I jumped to Windows Update, clicked Custom and let it search. When SP3 was offered, I selected the show me other updates that are available option. The first update that ran, all by itself, was the new Update installer 3.1. Once that was installed, I went directly to my SP3 master file and did the upgrade. It seems the installer is the big issue to SP3. I now check in Add Remove Programs before going to Windows Update and if the new installer is listed, I've had no trouble adding SP3.

Oh, and I don't use Windows Update anymore once SP3 is installed. I've switched to Microsoft Update instead so the customer (and me!) gets all the updates for Office too. The bad guys have poked enough holes in MS Office over the years to make it necessary to keep Office updated too. Using MS Update over Windows Update saves going to Office Update as another step in optimizing a pc.

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by glc http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339

Thanks for the link G this will come in handy!

[toomyg]

Originally Posted by Panama Red I dscovered something recently after doing an XP repair install. Did the repair with a slipstreamed SP2 disk and rather than going directly to the SP3 file, I jumped to Windows Update, clicked Custom and let it search. When SP3 was offered, I selected the show me other updates that are available option. The first update that ran, all by itself, was the new Update installer 3.1. Once that was installed, I went directly to my SP3 master file and did the upgrade. It seems the installer is the big issue to SP3. I now check in Add Remove Programs before going to Windows Update and if the new installer is listed, I've had no trouble adding SP3. Oh, and I don't use Windows Update anymore once SP3 is installed. I've switched to Microsoft Update instead so the customer (and me!) gets all the updates for Office too. The bad guys have poked enough holes in MS Office over the years to make it necessary to keep Office updated too. Using MS Update over Windows Update saves going to Office Update as another step in optimizing a pc.

Windows Update or Microsoft Update how do you change? I didnt know there was two of them !

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by toomyg Windows Update or Microsoft Update how do you change? I didnt know there was two of them !

Go to Windows update and look at the links on the bar about mid page. You'll see Microsoft Update listed (along with Office Update).