Freeze up problem

[redvette]

Hi Gang

I know I have posted this before, and did not get much info on it, perhaps I did not explain it properly, so I will give it another go.

I am using XP home, IE7, and Yahoo mail. Now this usually happens when I go to go back to my Yahoo e-mail, from being at another site. The cursor will change to an hour glass, and it does not freeze it can be moved about but you cannot click on any thing except a little white box up in the upper most left hand corner, then the hour glass changes to a pointer, and gives you the option on closing what you have on your screen. Or I can use CTRL-ALT-DELETE and do the same thing, then I have to click on my IE ocon to get back to my home page and click on my Yahoo mail.

Surly I cant be the only person that has had, or still has this problem, and uses Yahoo mail. I cant remember when this started but it has been going on for some time. I have tried deleting my IE 7 and Yahoo mail and reinstallled then numerious times, no change. I have gone into the programs and disabled and enabled several things at a time to see if maybe some thing there was causing this, no change. It don't seem to have any certain timing, it just does it any old time. So I know it has to do with my Yahoo mail or IE 7.

I hope some one out there has had this problem or some thing similar to it, or has a good idea of what could be causing this. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanx...Gunny

[Spools]

Are you signing out of your Yahoo account before you leave to another site?
Maybe it's timing out your signin and the site is having trouble when you use the "back" button.
Are you using tabbed browsing?

[redvette]

Hi Spools

No I am not signing out, I have never done that since I am back and forth all the time, on the Internet back to my mail, etc. Yes I am using tabbed browsing, is there a connection there.?

I know at the very best this is a very difficult problem to explain and more so yet to solve it. And over the Internet at that. So any ideas at all are really appreciated. At first this did not bother me, but lately it is really bugging me, because it drops every thing I am doing, and I loose it. I can leave the hour glass there I think forever and it will not do any thing. If I click on CTRL-DELETE-ALT, it says IE not responding and my Yahoo mail not responding. It is like they go to sleep or some thing. But as soon as it goes back to my desk top and I click on the IE icon they spring back to life like nothing happened, no errors or any thing.Yahoo mail gives me a message if I want to redo or resume what I was doing though.

Thanx...Gunny

[Spools]

Do you have a paid account or are you using the free side?

If you have a paid account, it might be worth writing a ticket to their support team.

If you have a free account, do you have a Yahoo toolbar installed on your browser? I normally remove them as soon as I see them but I'm seeing info that says having the toolbar installed might help your problem.

[redvette]

Hi Spools

No this is a pay through the nose type account, plus I pay an exra $20 a year for their plus account that does away with the adds, and gives you a couple of other goodies. My Yahoo is called Yahoo Pro. It is like the in-between set up they have. I think they have one a little cheaper and one a little more expensive.

Correct me if I am wrong here but to my knowledge Yahoo does not have an on line e-mail complaint thing any more, you have to either call them, or use their On line chat type thing, that is worthless. I have tried it and got no where.

This has been a problem for at least 3/4 months now, and like I said I have tried several things my self, like deleting and reinstalling Yahoo mail, messenger, IE 7, etc. And several times, thinking some thing did not load right or what ever. Nothing seems to correct it. It does seem to happen more when I do use the tabbed browsing, or click on some thing from one of my e-mails, a link, etc, and try to return to my e-mail.

Thanx...Gunny

[redvette]

Hi All

Since I have been messing with this problem, my thoughts have changed. I was thinking it had to do with my Yahoo mail, but things I have learned and tried diff things, since my post I have come to the conclusion it is my IE7 tabbed browsing that is giving me this problem. It seems if I have more then 2 or 3 open at the same time, I can experience this problem. And from what I have been reading about this tabbed problem I am not alone by any means. A lot of different problems people are experiencing due to this tabbed browsing.

As long as tabbed browsing has been used, why the problems. It is a great feature and when I turned it off, it brought home just how much I use it, and how handy it is. Is there any clear cut fix for this problem, or at least a way around this.?

Thanx and take care...........Gunny

[shadowpr]

Gunny,

I've been having random freezing problems lately with IE7. I've even had it start to just close automatically on me too. I'm really starting to think it's a bug in the browser. Hopefully thy come out with a fix, or if not, then hopefully IE8 will be better.

[glc]

Have you tried Firefox or Opera?

[redvette]

Hi GlC & shadow

I agree I believe the problem lies with the browser, and I too hope they correct this and other problems. Maybe IE 8 will do the trick. It might fix these and create others.... :-)

I have tried Firefox, but never Opera.. I guess i am a creature of my habits. cant seem to stick with any of these always seem to come back to my old systems. Ya I know I bitch and complain about them, but what is life with out a little bitching about some thing. :-)

Thanx...Gunny

[feranm_ie8team]

redvette,

Hi, my name’s Feran and I’m working with the Internet Explorer Outreach Team to provide assistance and help answer questions people might have about Internet Explorer.

Like others have suggested, upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 may help fix your problem. The IE8 release candidate (RC1) was made available last week and closely resembles what the final version of IE8 will be like, but is still in the final testing stages.

IE8 RC1 is a more stable and reliable version of Internet Explorer and may help solve the issues you are experiencing.

You can learn more about IE8 as well as download it here if you think it’s something you might want to try out: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...?ocid=ie8_sm_a

Also, this site actually gives you the opportunity to test some of the new security and compatibility features in IE8: http://www.ie8demos.com/tryit/

I hope this helps,

Feran
Internet Explorer Outreach Team

[shadowpr]

Originally Posted by feranm_ie8team I’m working with the Internet Explorer Outreach Team to provide assistance and help answer questions people might have about Internet Explorer. Like others have suggested, upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 may help fix your problem. The IE8 release candidate (RC1) was made available last week and closely resembles what the final version of IE8 will be like, but is still in the final testing stages. IE8 RC1 is a more stable and reliable version of Internet Explorer and may help solve the issues you are experiencing.

IE8 is still not an official stable release.

If you do work with IE, how about a patch for IE7 instead?

[glc]

Gunny, take this with a grain of salt.

A few years ago, this site worked perfectly with IE, but had all kinds of issues with alternative browsers due to IE's "loose" standards and its proprietary way of handling things. Drisley basically told us he was coding for IE and everyone else could go pound sand.

However, Drisley has recently "seen the light" and has switched to a Mac. Funny thing, he now claims that IE is a big pain in the neck. We now have unsolved issues here with IE.

Bottom line - there are 2 sets of "standards" - W3C and Microsoft. This is why to effectively surf the web these days, you really need 2 browsers - IE and something else - the most popular "something else" right now in the Windows world is Firefox.

In my opinion, *responsible* coders code for W3C and "lazy" or "unskilled" coders code for IE.

[feranm_ie8team]

shadowpr,

You are correct it is not the final release. As I mentioned, it is the release candidate – which is in the final stages of testing and very close to what the official IE8 release will be. The new IE8 will include improvements from previous versions, including IE7.

Thanks and let me know if you have any more questions,

Feran
Internet Explorer Outreach Team

[brianb]

Instead of IE 8, save some time and reboots by installing Firefox. You can even add the plugin Adblock Plus to remove a lot of the advertisements on web sites.

[redvette]

Hi All

If I did not know better I would say you all are for Firefox in a very big way. What do you all have against IE.? :-) It is said we are creatures of habits. An one of my habits is IE. You all are for Firefox in such a big way it almost looks like you are getting payed to get people to switch over to it. Come on now lets be honest are you getting some thing under the table.? If I go to Firefox I will split it with you. Ok ok you have me really curious now. Even though I have looked at Firefox before, maybe just maybe I did not look at it in the right way. I have to be honest with you though, it is really going to take some thing to make me change. If you go by what you read, Firefox is really having a lot of security issues, not that it bothers me, but just the same, I do like a little security with my browser.

Thanx....Gunny

[shadowpr]

Originally Posted by feranm_ie8team is in the final stages of testing and very close to what the official IE8 release will be. The new IE8 will include improvements from previous versions, including IE7.

It's still not a good idea to recommend a RC to a typical user. The idea behind the RC is for people to test it out, and help the developers find the final bugs.

Why would the OP want to be a tester with something that is not a final project? He is looking for stability, as am I.

Originally Posted by feranm_ie8team Thanks and let me know if you have any more questions, Feran Internet Explorer Outreach Team

I do have a question. If IE8 has a fix for the problem being described, then why wouldn't a patch be issued for IE7? You're part of the Outreach Team, then how about informing users about what is being done for users of IE7?

Originally Posted by redvette If I did not know better I would say you all are for Firefox in a very big way. What do you all have against IE.? :-) It is said we are creatures of habits. An one of my habits is IE. You all are for Firefox in such a big way it almost looks like you are getting payed to get people to switch over to it. Come on now lets be honest are you getting some thing under the table.? If I go to Firefox I will split it with you. Ok ok you have me really curious now. Even though I have looked at Firefox before, maybe just maybe I did not look at it in the right way. I have to be honest with you though, it is really going to take some thing to make me change. If you go by what you read, Firefox is really having a lot of security issues, not that it bothers me, but just the same, I do like a little security with my browser.

Gunny, just like you, I enjoy using IE7. I also have been hesitant to switch browsers to firefox. IE7 does everything I want it to. But, now that I've said that, I do also use Firefox when I use linux, which might become my main OS of choice here shortly.

I can tell you that it offers the same thing IE7 does. The only thing I had to do was add some add-ons to get it exactly how I like it. Tabmix Plus being the big one. The other difference that I have noticed so far is that it's a bit harder to switch to live search as the defaul search engine, which I like to use.

I would say, give it a try, and just know that it's going to be a bit different. And even if you don't particularly like it, it might be worth using till IE7 is fixed, or since that may never happen, till IE8 is officially released.

[redvette]

Hi Shadow

Ya I know what you are saying. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Computer use has always been that, try it and see if you like it. There is always a go back if you don't. There is no harm in trying some thing. We are always a little hesitant about changes I guess. All you very learned people have convinced me, its worth a try. I will, and let you all know what I think of it. After all it is not like I am stepping off the edge of a cliff........ :-)

I appreciate all your thoughts and help on this. Gunny

[glc]

Gunny, I avoid IE at all costs, and have been avoiding it since the days of IE4, which was a piece of crap. I only use IE when I have to use poorly coded sites that don't work right in other browsers, or sites that the developers have designed to work ONLY with IE. Nobody has to pay me to promote Firefox or Opera.

[feranm_ie8team]

shadowpr,

I’m not on the Internet Explorer development team, so your best bet for specific technical support questions relating directly to technical Internet Explorer 7 issues will probably be by dealing with Microsoft support directly, or by checking in with the development team’s blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/. The folks on the IE Development Team are definitely the ones that’ll have the most insight regarding any and all technical support release schedules for Internet Explorer 7.

Thanks,

Feran
Internet explorer Outreach Team