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tironsi · 01-28-2002, 09:35 AM

I have already received numerous copies of this virus, it appears to be spreading quickly (Arggg when will people learn not to use Outlook!!!):

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...yparty@mm.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/23843.html

DrZaius · 01-28-2002, 11:59 AM

Yep, just got three of them. Never open attached EXE files people!

erucader · 01-28-2002, 12:15 PM

i never use outlook express. but i also dont open exe attachments unless i know its safe.

tironsi · 01-28-2002, 02:45 PM

Well, that's fine, but some of these Outlook worms do damage even if you just preview the message (no opening of attachments required), and although you might not get infected someone who has your address might. I use pine and couldn't execute .exe files even if I wanted to, but that doesn't mean that I couldn't get a bunch of e-mails from people who use Outlook. I actually got four e-mails from two accounts, imagine if I'd gotten a hundred instead of two per account, now that would be very annoying for me and really bad for the school network (if it didn't filter them out in the first place, which in this case it seems to have done a good job). That's what pisses me off.

Spiffman · 01-28-2002, 04:49 PM

to change the topic of this thread entirely...

i use OE... i don't LOVE it, but what do you suggest i use? what do YOU use? and if you tell me pine, i'm going to soil myself laughing so hard. eh? =D

Computer Hobbyist · 01-28-2002, 05:01 PM

I normally use Netscape, or Mozilla, but there are times I use OE. Viri have become such a threat my ISP is now scanning all the emails through his mail system and both of my networks have commercial packages. But the final line of defense is still don't open attachments unless they are expected and you're sure they are clean. Even then there are no guarantees.

CH

Colonel Sanders · 01-28-2002, 05:24 PM

Since my e-mail is hotmail, that is what I use. I hate OE, looks horrible, and too confusing for me to want to take the time to learn. I also think it is faster to just use the hotmail web-page(may not be reliabe, but it is fast).

Logan

lil Jimmie · 01-28-2002, 06:28 PM

Hotmail is not as safe as you think; I have gotten viruses thru hotmail as well! I have my friends and family send a password in the subject line when ever they are sending attachments just so I know it is from them because a virus will NOT know this password and ensures me that it was sent intentionally from the person.

erucader · 01-28-2002, 08:52 PM

thats a good idea

Tuf · 01-28-2002, 09:13 PM

The reason people will not learn to use Outlook is simple. Its powerful relatively easy to use software that integrates with the other Office Applications.The real question is when will people learn not to spread malicious code.These idiots should be held responsible for the damage caused or never see the sunshine again!

tironsi · 01-28-2002, 09:31 PM

Actually I do use pine (via ssh) most of the time. You'd be amazed at how well it works. I never send any html e-mail and I complain to the people who send me html formatted e-mail. I hate animations the most, so pine automatically gets rid of these for me. Everything is quick and efficient. When I do want to use a Windows program, I use Eudora, which I think is the best email client out there.

erucader · 01-28-2002, 09:47 PM

whats pine? never heard of it...

DrZaius · 01-28-2002, 10:26 PM

Quote:

whats pine? never heard of it...

It's an email client for Unix.

http://www.washington.edu/pine/

Carl Price · 01-28-2002, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil Jimmie
Hotmail is not as safe as you think; I have gotten viruses thru hotmail as well! I have my friends and family send a password in the subject line when ever they are sending attachments just so I know it is from them because a virus will NOT know this password and ensures me that it was sent intentionally from the person.

Actually, that is not such a good idea, because his computer could be infected without his knowledge. You are also right about Hotmail. They use that pathetic McAfee that couldn't sniff out a virus if it was sh*t right under it's nose. A few months ago I downloaded a virus from Hotmail that McAfee had passed. Norton started screaming as it was coming in and I done a Housecall screen that confirmed it.

lil Jimmie · 01-28-2002, 10:38 PM

Carl, you are right it is not a cure all, however it is another tool to use.

Just remember folks, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck more than likely it is a duck!

morriswindgate · 01-29-2002, 12:21 AM

Just think about all of those AOL users and their buddy lists.
"A bunch of party pictures in addition to the joke of the day, O'BOY I can't wait to see them!"

morriswindgate · 01-29-2002, 12:25 AM

ANd remember IF YOU DO NOT OPEN IT,IT CAN't HURT YOU!

alias · 01-29-2002, 12:29 AM

I would suggest The Bat for windows, it's a powerful client and personally
I haven't got one virus when using this one except those I've discovered
of course

It can be found at www.ritlabs.com

For those that don't want to get a new address just because they got hotmail.
I would suggest you to get a nice tool called Web2Pop that works several
POP3 clients such as The Bat. You can get it here www.jmasoftware.com

01-28-2002, 09:35 AM	#1
tironsi Member (6 bit) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 60	Warning: New virus going around I have already received numerous copies of this virus, it appears to be spreading quickly (Arggg when will people learn not to use Outlook!!!): http://securityresponse.symantec.com...yparty@mm.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/23843.html

01-28-2002, 11:59 AM	#2
DrZaius Member (13 bit) Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 7,030	Yep, just got three of them. Never open attached EXE files people! __________________ "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire

01-28-2002, 12:15 PM	#3
erucader Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 637	i never use outlook express. but i also dont open exe attachments unless i know its safe. __________________ Dell XPS M1530 Xbox 360

01-28-2002, 05:24 PM	#7
Colonel Sanders Resident AMD enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,445	Since my e-mail is hotmail, that is what I use. I hate OE, looks horrible, and too confusing for me to want to take the time to learn. I also think it is faster to just use the hotmail web-page(may not be reliabe, but it is fast). Logan __________________ Main: Gigabyte GA-770T USB3 - Phenom II 840 - 4GB DDR3 - Radeon 5750 1GB HTPC: MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - Athlon II 250 - 4GB DDR2 - Radeon 5670 512MB HTPC: Zotac GeForce 6100E-E - Athlon X2 5800+ - 4GB DDR2 "Play a Windows CD backwards and you'll hear satanic voices, thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows."

01-28-2002, 06:28 PM	#8
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Hotmail is not as safe as you think; I have gotten viruses thru hotmail as well! I have my friends and family send a password in the subject line when ever they are sending attachments just so I know it is from them because a virus will NOT know this password and ensures me that it was sent intentionally from the person. __________________ Fast enough 2 get by.....old enough 2 know what not 2 try -You know it was me

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01-28-2002, 02:45 PM	#4
tironsi Member (6 bit) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 60	Well, that's fine, but some of these Outlook worms do damage even if you just preview the message (no opening of attachments required), and although you might not get infected someone who has your address might. I use pine and couldn't execute .exe files even if I wanted to, but that doesn't mean that I couldn't get a bunch of e-mails from people who use Outlook. I actually got four e-mails from two accounts, imagine if I'd gotten a hundred instead of two per account, now that would be very annoying for me and really bad for the school network (if it didn't filter them out in the first place, which in this case it seems to have done a good job). That's what pisses me off.

01-28-2002, 04:49 PM	#5
Spiffman Member (8 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Spencer, IA Posts: 139	to change the topic of this thread entirely... i use OE... i don't LOVE it, but what do you suggest i use? what do YOU use? and if you tell me pine, i'm going to soil myself laughing so hard. eh? =D

01-28-2002, 05:01 PM	#6
Computer Hobbyist Member (11 bit) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Blue Springs, MO Posts: 1,766	I normally use Netscape, or Mozilla, but there are times I use OE. Viri have become such a threat my ISP is now scanning all the emails through his mail system and both of my networks have commercial packages. But the final line of defense is still don't open attachments unless they are expected and you're sure they are clean. Even then there are no guarantees. CH

01-28-2002, 08:52 PM	#9
erucader Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 637	cool thats a good idea

01-28-2002, 09:13 PM	#10
Tuf Member (12 bit) Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,261	The reason people will not learn to use Outlook is simple. Its powerful relatively easy to use software that integrates with the other Office Applications.The real question is when will people learn not to spread malicious code.These idiots should be held responsible for the damage caused or never see the sunshine again!

01-28-2002, 09:31 PM	#11
tironsi Member (6 bit) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 60	Actually I do use pine (via ssh) most of the time. You'd be amazed at how well it works. I never send any html e-mail and I complain to the people who send me html formatted e-mail. I hate animations the most, so pine automatically gets rid of these for me. Everything is quick and efficient. When I do want to use a Windows program, I use Eudora, which I think is the best email client out there.

01-28-2002, 09:47 PM	#12
erucader Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 637	whats pine? never heard of it...

01-28-2002, 10:38 PM	#15
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Carl, you are right it is not a cure all, however it is another tool to use. Just remember folks, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck more than likely it is a duck!

01-29-2002, 12:21 AM	#16
morriswindgate Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,761	Just think about all of those AOL users and their buddy lists. "A bunch of party pictures in addition to the joke of the day, O'BOY I can't wait to see them!"

01-29-2002, 12:25 AM	#17
morriswindgate Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,761	ANd remember IF YOU DO NOT OPEN IT,IT CAN't HURT YOU!

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01-29-2002, 12:29 AM	#18
alias Member (5 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 29	I would suggest The Bat for windows, it's a powerful client and personally I haven't got one virus when using this one except those I've discovered of course It can be found at www.ritlabs.com For those that don't want to get a new address just because they got hotmail. I would suggest you to get a nice tool called Web2Pop that works several POP3 clients such as The Bat. You can get it here www.jmasoftware.com

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