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dldz · 10-24-2002, 06:11 PM

hey guys I looked and could'nt find much help on this so here's my problem.
My sister has a new Dell with XP on it and she wants to totally lock everyone but herself out of it, her kids are the problem here. here last 98 machine I had here put a P.O.P. on it. and that did the trick. I'm not to familar with XP so Any advice ? Thanks ! Don

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 07:31 PM

Disable "Fast user switching" and set passwords for every account or delete the other user accounts except hers. Then she can lock the PC by hitting the windows key + L and it will lock the desktop.

Statica · 10-24-2002, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil Jimmie
Disable "Fast user switching"

There is no reason to disable fast user switching at all .. simply enable passwords on all accounts and enable the welcome screen; it will ask for a pwd everytime someone needs to log in .. her kids may or may not have a pwd it doesnt matter .. as long as she has a pwd

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 08:31 PM

Yeah, but if she needs to leave the room for a few moments it's very easy to hit the win key +L and lock the desktop.

Statica · 10-24-2002, 08:41 PM

I still dont see why you would advice someone to disable Fast Switching and crippling functionality when all that is needed is a password on the account unless there is a vulnerability in Fast user switching that allows unauthorized access to a password protected user account, that I just havent seen.

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 08:45 PM

With me it is ease of use, and her being a mom she may have to be called away from the PC and with the quick lock option it's a nice feature.

Statica · 10-24-2002, 08:48 PM

Ok this is perhaps material for another thread but just to clarify, the Winkey+L desktop lock is a feature that does NOT get disabled with fast user switching. Fast user switching is the equivalent of the *NIX virtual terminal feature, whereby multiple users can utilize the computer through different accounts mutually exclusive of the application space occupied by the other user.
If user A wants to get a snack hitting Winkey+L will lock out the desktop without logging out.. but will let user B (iff there is a user B configured) use the computer. If fast user switching was disabled then user B cannot use the computer.

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 08:54 PM

That is my point, if she happened to be in the middle of some important work and didn't save her work, then one of the kids logs on and starts playing and the system happened to crash would her unsaved data be in tack? With the quick lock option it will be better in ensuring that the system will be as she left it.

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 10:13 PM

Forgive me if I took this a bit too far Statica, but Don did ask "How too completely password protect a XP desktop?"

dldz · 10-24-2002, 10:18 PM

thanks for the quick reply guys, I'm going to be helping her via long distance, and her kids are 17-22 and they already tried today to boot it up but she took the power cord to work with her LOL. So they are not rocket scientists. Which would be the easist method ? I doubt she will leave it turned on unattended they have crashed the past two machines they won't get to play with this one.
T I A again
Don

ZANEY123 · 10-24-2002, 10:24 PM

I would say do what Lil Jimmie said execpt for "disabling the fast user option,if they aren't rocket scientistsyou should be fine.

Zaney123

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 10:24 PM

In that case just assign passwords for all accounts and give the kids a limited account. If she needs tighter security disable the fast user switching.

dldz · 10-24-2002, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil Jimmie
In that case just assign passwords for all accounts and give the kids a limited account. If she needs tighter security disable the fast user switching.

Ok she doe's not even want them on it period. She's going to restore the old machine and let them use that one but we know they will try and use her new XP machine while at work etc...She wants to totally lock them out .
Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
Don

lil Jimmie · 10-24-2002, 10:39 PM

Then only create ONE account (hers) and then set a password on that account. Then make sure the guest account is disabled.

dldz · 10-25-2002, 12:46 AM

Ok thats kinda what I thought, but after reading the MS website and being unfamiler with XP...well you know the rest

Thanks again guys !
Don

***glc*** · 10-28-2002, 09:26 AM

Make sure the Administrator account is strongly passworded too!

dldz · 10-28-2002, 11:00 AM

Thanks for your help,we got her set up the way she wants and she spent about 30 mins trying to get on without a password or wrong password and is confident this will do the trick. Now I want to go and get XP after this experiance

Don

doctorgonzo · 10-28-2002, 11:04 AM

One thing you may want to have her try is to boot to Safe mode and try to log in as the Administrator. Too often, people don't remember to set an Administrator password, as glc said.

dldz · 10-28-2002, 11:06 AM

Ok dor G I will have her do that tonight when she gets home Thanks again !

10-24-2002, 06:11 PM	#1
dldz Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 830	Completely password protect XP desktop? hey guys I looked and could'nt find much help on this so here's my problem. My sister has a new Dell with XP on it and she wants to totally lock everyone but herself out of it, her kids are the problem here. here last 98 machine I had here put a P.O.P. on it. and that did the trick. I'm not to familar with XP so Any advice ? Thanks ! Don Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 07:31 PM	#2
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Disable "Fast user switching" and set passwords for every account or delete the other user accounts except hers. Then she can lock the PC by hitting the windows key + L and it will lock the desktop. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Fast enough 2 get by.....old enough 2 know what not 2 try -You know it was me

10-24-2002, 08:31 PM	#4
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Yeah, but if she needs to leave the room for a few moments it's very easy to hit the win key +L and lock the desktop. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 08:41 PM	#5
Statica Premium Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 9,231	I still dont see why you would advice someone to disable Fast Switching and crippling functionality when all that is needed is a password on the account unless there is a vulnerability in Fast user switching that allows unauthorized access to a password protected user account, that I just havent seen. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	With me it is ease of use, and her being a mom she may have to be called away from the PC and with the quick lock option it's a nice feature. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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10-24-2002, 08:48 PM	#7
Statica Premium Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 9,231	Ok this is perhaps material for another thread but just to clarify, the Winkey+L desktop lock is a feature that does NOT get disabled with fast user switching. Fast user switching is the equivalent of the NIX virtual terminal feature, whereby multiple users can utilize the computer through different accounts mutually exclusive of the application space occupied by the other user. If user A wants to get a snack hitting Winkey+L will lock out the desktop without logging out.. but will let user B (iff there is a user B configured*) use the computer. If fast user switching was disabled then user B cannot use the computer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 08:54 PM	#8
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	That is my point, if she happened to be in the middle of some important work and didn't save her work, then one of the kids logs on and starts playing and the system happened to crash would her unsaved data be in tack? With the quick lock option it will be better in ensuring that the system will be as she left it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Last edited by lil Jimmie; 10-24-2002 at 09:02 PM.

10-24-2002, 10:13 PM	#9
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Forgive me if I took this a bit too far Statica, but Don did ask "How too completely password protect a XP desktop?" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 10:18 PM	#10
dldz Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 830	thanks for the quick reply guys, I'm going to be helping her via long distance, and her kids are 17-22 and they already tried today to boot it up but she took the power cord to work with her LOL. So they are not rocket scientists. Which would be the easist method ? I doubt she will leave it turned on unattended they have crashed the past two machines they won't get to play with this one. T I A again Don Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 10:24 PM	#11
ZANEY123 HOCKEY FREAK Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: philadelphia pa Posts: 1,078	I would say do what Lil Jimmie said execpt for "disabling the fast user option,if they aren't rocket scientistsyou should be fine. Zaney123 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-24-2002, 10:39 PM	#14
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	Then only create ONE account (hers) and then set a password on that account. Then make sure the guest account is disabled. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-25-2002, 12:46 AM	#15
dldz Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 830	Ok thats kinda what I thought, but after reading the MS website and being unfamiler with XP...well you know the rest Thanks again guys ! Don Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-28-2002, 09:26 AM	#16
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 37,786	Make sure the Administrator account is strongly passworded too! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-28-2002, 11:00 AM	#17
dldz Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 830	Thanks for your help,we got her set up the way she wants and she spent about 30 mins trying to get on without a password or wrong password and is confident this will do the trick. Now I want to go and get XP after this experiance Don Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

10-28-2002, 11:04 AM	#18
doctorgonzo Professional gadfly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 6,364	One thing you may want to have her try is to boot to Safe mode and try to log in as the Administrator. Too often, people don't remember to set an Administrator password, as glc said. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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dldz Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 830	Ok dor G I will have her do that tonight when she gets home Thanks again ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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