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Old 11-05-2002, 09:46 PM   #1
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boot.ini .... multi boot question..

ok... i have 2 hard drives on my primary ide... windows 2000 on the master... windows 98 on the slave



my boot.ini file looks like this...


[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect


what do i need to add to that to allows my to boot into 98...?
right now i've been going into the cmos setup and just changing which drive it checks first..

is this correct...?
multi(1)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows 98 SE" /fastdetect

... or am i off somewhere...
i havent tried changed it yet... didnt really wanna chance anything..
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The line to add I think it would read more like this:

multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows" /fastdetect
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The line to add I think it would read more like this:

multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows" /fastdetect


thanks...
i'll go try that now
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Old 11-05-2002, 10:11 PM   #4
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i didnt work....
the menu came up..
i cant boot to 2000 from the menu.. but not 98...
when i try to boot 98, i get an error saying its unable to boot from that disk..
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Old 11-05-2002, 10:25 PM   #5
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Hpro has a thread on how to add 98/ME to XP and I'm sure 2000 isn't much different, check it out

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?threadid=24831
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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)


this way but just change the the ending and the 1 to the rdisk

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Old 11-05-2002, 10:35 PM   #7
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Zaney's right it is rdisk and not disk, my bad I'm sorry I should have checked it before I posted.
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Zaney's right it is rdisk and not disk, my bad I'm sorry I should have checked it before I posted.


ok... lol ... no problem.. i'll change it and try again...



but while im here.. i'll go ahead and ask... what is "rdisk"?
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well.... its still not working...


now i get an error saying ntoskrnl.exe is corrupt and must be replaced...

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Old 11-05-2002, 10:54 PM   #10
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[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1) change this to the correct name

that is how it should read

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Old 11-05-2002, 10:56 PM   #11
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it is which physical drive the os is on
if you had both OS's on 1 physical drive then just the partion would change




http://support.microsoft.com/default...022#References

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q314081

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q102873

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well.... its still not working...


now i get an error saying ntoskrnl.exe is corrupt and must be replaced...


im still getting this...
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Old 11-05-2002, 11:09 PM   #13
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Quote:
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Hpro has a thread on how to add 98/ME to XP and I'm sure 2000 isn't much different, check it out

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?threadid=24831
did you read through this...
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Old 11-05-2002, 11:11 PM   #14
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http://www.ntfaq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=14722

http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBF/TIP2700/rh2745.htm

it should say "Microsoft Windows 98"

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\"Microsoft Windows 98"



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blah.... still no luck..
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Old 11-06-2002, 02:03 AM   #16
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Hi all,

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought that, if you are multi-booting with Win98 and Win2K, doesn't Win98 have to be the master?
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Old 11-06-2002, 03:40 AM   #17
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To dual boot, the BOOT.INI file needs to be in the root of the Windows 98 partition. This is what normally happens when you set up a dual boot in the recommended way i.e. install older OS first (Win9x) and newer OS (W2K or XP) second.

I would follow Hpro's advice, in the link above, on how to get both OS working together. This method will get BOOT.INI (along with the other necessary files NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, BOOTSECT.DOS) onto the root of the Win9x partition, where they belong.

In practical terms, you trying to do exactly what he is describing - adding Win9x to an existing XP installation.

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i've done everything posted in this thread and im still getting an error saying that ntoskrnl.exe needs to be reinstalled..
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Old 11-06-2002, 09:31 PM   #19
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so to say the least you have 2000 on 1 hd and win98 on the other both already installed.

and have you followed hpro's directions to the t?

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Old 11-06-2002, 09:54 PM   #20
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so to say the least you have 2000 on 1 hd and win98 on the other both already installed.

and have you followed hpro's directions to the t?

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yes... they are both installed

yes... follows his directions exactly


still the only way i can get change from one OS to another is if i go to the cmos and set which drive to boot from...


i get the ntoskrnl.exe error if i try to select 98 from the menu
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Old 11-06-2002, 11:01 PM   #21
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i would say just erase 2000, change back the boot.ini on 98 .

get 98 running nice,,while running 98 insert the 00 cd and try it that way

http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/334/3/
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...threadid=33269

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i would say just erase 2000, change back the boot.ini on 98 .

get 98 running nice,,while running 98 insert the 00 cd and try it that way

http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/334/3/
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...threadid=33269

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i wish i could do that...
i have nearly 30 gig of important stuff on my 2k drive..
i dont really see backin that much up to cdr's as being resonable..
on top of that... due to a fire... i no longer had the disks to any of my software except for a few things..

i guess i'll just give up at this point.. lol
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Old 11-07-2002, 12:10 AM   #23
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Well I am at a loss now. I tryied Hpro's way and it worked so if you tried everything I posted then I am stuck to.

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On the third line of your ini the number
after partiton(2) (I put 2 assuming you
only have the 2 hard drives and there
not partitioned) refers to how many partitions
you have or how many bootable partitions, I'm
not sure excactly wich. You'll have to try both out.

Now the number after partition in the lines for
2000 and 98 refer to what partition those
operating systems are on. So if there are only
the 2 drives with 2000 on one and 98 on the
other you will have a choice of 1 or 2. These
numbers are asigned during the fdisk or format
of these drives and can be found in fdisk.


Run fdisk from the command prompt and then
choose to display partitions. Here you will find
the numbers assigned to each drive or partition.

Below is what I think your ini might look like.
The partition numbers may vary, like I mentioned
above. If this does not work try removing the
/fastdetect in the last line, and if that does'nt
work try removing the quotations from windows.
So it will look like one of the lines below.


multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows" /fastdetect


multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows"


multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS=Windows

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[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows" /fastdetect


Right now I'm running 98, 2000, and Xp Pro on my
system at school. So if the above does not work I
will get a copy of my Boot.ini and post it here for you
and you can modify it as needed.

I hope this helps you out. db
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Yes,

Assuming ntoskrnl.exe is not corrupted, then the answer is in the boot.ini file.

What HD with what OS is now jumpered as Master - Win98 or W2K?

How many partitions do you have on each HD?

If you only had one partition on each HD and Win98 was on the Master HD, then in your boot.ini "Windows" should be listed as on partition (1) and W2K should be listed as on partition (2).

If Win98 is on the Slave drive, then it would be on partition (2) and W2K would be on partition (1).

If you have more partitions, then you must make sure the partition number is right for both OS. C: is always partition 1, so you can work out the correct number for other partitions from there i.e. C=1 D=2 E=3 F= 4 etc.

I would also try changing the "default" header in boot.ini to simply the drive that Win98 is on e.g. C:\ if it's C, D:\ if it's on D etc. That should be enough to enable Win98 to boot.

Here is an example of a simple Win98SE and XP boot.ini
citing two partitions:

[Boot Loader]
Timeout=30
Default=C:\
[Operating Systems]
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition"
Multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\
Windows="Microsoft Windows XP".

As you can see the default OS to start is "C:\" which is Win98SE.

If all else fails, then your other option is just to reinstall W2K over the top of itself. It will detect Win98, replace any corrupted files, and redo the boot.ini file.

You may have to redo some of your settings, but your data will be left intact.

HTH
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So what was the outcome? Did you get it working, and if so how? thanks, db
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