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Old 11-20-2002, 10:23 AM   #1
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Thumbs down 45+ minutes for XP to boot up?

Machine specs
Athlon XP 2000
80 gig Maxtor ( x2 )
Asus A7V333
512mb ram Kingsmax
Abit ti4400
seperate c-media soundcard
Firewire pci card
24x nec writer
16x liteon dvd
Windows XP Pro Sp1

Why would it take my machine 45+ minutes to boot up? I was gonna format everything because I thought it was not booting up at all after waiting 15 minutes the other day, but my girlfriend informed me if I leave it, it will eventually load up the logon screen, she was right. So whilst I am writing this on my girlfriends machine my computer is chugging away in the background 41 minutes exactly and still no logon screen.
Have defragged it last night with nortons systemworks 2003 after it told me it was 37% fagmented but still the same.
If I try and load up in safe mode it stops on mup.sys have checked this out on various sites and was none the wiser having read so called reasons for this occurance. Have also done a full virus scan, no virus being detected. Used windoctor in nortons, no change.
Success, has just loaded the logon screen 47 minutes its taken?

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Old 11-20-2002, 01:30 PM   #2
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Hi boing_boing,

Welcome to PC Mech.

Is this a home built or a store bought name brand PC?

How long have you been having this problem? Has it been like this from the very start?

Did you install anything new (hardware or software) just prior to the problem?

Are all your devices XP compatible?

Are all your device drivers the correct ones and up to date?

Have you tried any troubleshooting to remedy the problem? What were they?

Is the RAM 1 stick or 2?

What brand is the power supply and how many watts does it put out?

Are the 2 hard drives in a RAID setup?

Are the hard drives jumpered to CS (cable select)?

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Old 11-20-2002, 01:51 PM   #3
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hI Cricket,

Home built system has been running great for 6 months. Initial problem rose from Saturday night, was playing Crusader Stronghold ( was using ws_ftp pro at the same time ) game play became sticky ( mouse cursor would not move for 10 secs approx ) so saved where I was in the game and tried to exit windows, did'nt like that everything froze, could'nt do nothing then, so I reset the computer (soft) and thats when all the problems have became apparent. All devices are xp comp all drivers uptodate and all windows updates loaded, 2 sticks of kingsmax bbg 256mb pc 2700, not sure of make of power supply, good one though case cost me £235 the rating is 520Watts. The hard drives are primary master and secondary master on a pci raid card ( not setup for an array ) Have checked all hard drives with powermax ( maxtor diagnosis software ) all connections etc pass all the checks.

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Old 11-20-2002, 02:09 PM   #4
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Hi boing_boing,

Have you tried turning back WinXP to a previous restore point before you played the game? I'm not familiar with the procedure though as I don't use my WinXP much.

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Old 11-20-2002, 03:09 PM   #5
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click start>programs>accesseries>system tools>system restore
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:40 PM   #6
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wow, so it actually is useful for something. I always cleared mine out because it took up so much space.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:15 PM   #7
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Cool

Fuze the XP restore point is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I have got in the habit whenever I make any change I do a restore point prior. I've used it several times to go back when installing updates and drivers.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:22 PM   #8
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i use GO BACK and it works great for me.......i havent had to use the restore yet but i still have it on.

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Old 11-20-2002, 04:35 PM   #9
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Download and run PowerMax on your HDs

http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powermax.htm

Just to make sure they're in good shape.

Also, make sure you don't have TOO many programs running at Startup. Norton's System Works is known to hog resources and loading all the applications at Startup will slow things down.

Go into the options of each Norton program and untick "load when Windows starts". The only program you need running at Startup from the Norton suite is the Anti-Virus.

Also, cut down the other non-Norton programs loading at Startup by:

Click on Start Menu
Click Run
Type "msconfig" without the quotes into the Open box and click OK.
Clear the box next to Load Startup Items.
Click on Apply.
Reboot as ordered.

See if that helps.

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Old 11-20-2002, 05:53 PM   #10
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the red flag to me here is Norton. other than virus scan, i never use any Norton system utilities ever
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Old 11-28-2002, 01:13 PM   #11
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After a full format of the drives ( zeroing them with powermax) still the same with the new installation. I put the drives on the motherboard IDE and would appear I have a corrupted raid card, either way there seems to be a problem with the raid card as everything is now running fine ( fingers crossed ).
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Welcome to the wonderful world of IDE RAID. IDE RAID is extremely flaky, and is known to cause a lot of issues on the integrity of data as well as the disk itself.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:10 PM   #13
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So, it's not advisable to use the RAID IDE channels on my new mobo?
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Old 11-29-2002, 03:02 AM   #14
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its typically not supposed to do what is occuring you may have a defective raid card not one is supposed to cause system startup delyas may wanna see if its still under warranty.
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Old 11-29-2002, 02:53 PM   #15
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With regard to the flakey raid, my trusty Athlon 1 gig thunderbird is still running sweet on a kt7-raid with two 20 gig ibm drives on a striped array after nearly two years no problems at all, although this is a promise chip.
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hmmm i am having the same problem but its on a hdd that i just formatted.

It boots fine on the celeron 700, but on the p200 it has the same problem as him

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Old 11-30-2002, 12:25 PM   #17
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hmm lastnight it was funny, i let it try and load over night for 8hours and it didnt work
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