.dll files

[kmbrln2]

Can anyone help me locate the .dll files on windows 98 cd.

[galaxian]

???
1. Why are you looking for them?
2. When you find them be aware that they are most likely old and out of date, and you really don't want to restore any.
But, if you feel comfortable in what you are doing, do Start > Run > SFC and select Extract One File.

[Dan]

what files are you looking for?
this site has .dll files to download:
http://www.dll-files.com/

[galaxian]

Please note that you do NOT want to start randomly downloading a DLL file just because the name matches. The site above does not seem to understand the concept of version numbers and offers one, be it old new or otherwise!!

For example. COMDLG32.dll is for Win98FE, so you don't want to load this on Win98SE.
MSHTML is for IE6, so it you are still running IE5 you don't want to be loading this.

Version numbers are extremely important and downloading an old one, or one that is new (but doesn't match the other related files) will cause you more grief than you currently have.

The MS DLL database is a place to start to determine the version required, and the software that installed it.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...fo.asp&SD=msdn

[Dan]

galaxian-
you make some very pertinent points here.
but this site does offer version numbers, and once downloaded you can check the properties of the file to be sure it matches the one you are replacing. I agree that one shouldn't just start downloading dll files willy nilly, but how would anyone who had win98se know about the COMDLG32.dll file? or for that matter want to download it?
likewise why would anyone be looking for the MSHTML.dll file if they didn't have ie6?
this site is for folks looking for a specific file and version#.
be it old or new or otherwise...hmm if it's newer it would have a different version number wouldn't it??
so anyway, I agree the microsoft link is a good place to start,
but the dll site has the files to offer...
I've downloaded files there in the past with no problem.

[GaryRouth]

kmbrln2 - did you find the file you needed?

galaxian & Dan's replies should have been able to get you the files you wanted. If you have a reason to actually need the exact location of a file on the Windows CD - you could find it over at Microsoft's Knowledge Base. Search for a files list for the OS of your choice: MS publishes lists of what's inside each of the .cab files on the CDs.

. . . Gary

[galaxian]

"once downloaded you can check the properties of the file to be sure it matches the one you are replacing."

Your post above just said, "go here and get the file". It said nothing about being careful about version numbers. Many people believe that all they need to do is find a file with the same name and reload it. And, as you know, doing this with DLLs this will cause major issues.

"how would anyone who had win98se know about the COMDLG32.dll file? or for that matter want to download it?"

Comdlg32 is a Windows file and exists on Win98SE. My point was that this site seems to carry any old version. If someone with SE goes there to download COMDLG32, they are going to end up with a 98FE version!!

"likewise why would anyone be looking for the MSHTML.dll file if they didn't have ie6?"

The same thing. MSHTML is an IE file that exists in all versions. But, if you went to this site to download a copy, AND you were running IE5, you would be downloading the wrong version.

[Dan]

oh my.
ok, sorry I didn't go into detail about checking versions.
I guess I just assumed too much.
the site is useful if you know what you're looking for...
it does state the version it is offering for download, and that it comes from a retail disc...
most .dll files can be found on the installation disc, which is the best source...if you have the disc.
where else could you get them if you didn't have the disc?

[galaxian]

Originally posted by Dan most .dll files can be found on the installation disc, which is the best source...if you have the disc.

Installation disk? Meaning the Windows CD?

This is the worst place to be restoring DLL files from!!

As you apply updates from the Windows update site, security updates, install new software, etc, the system dlls continue to be updated with newer versions.

The ones on the CD for a Windows 98 system will be badly out of date.

In order to restore, you need to use the MS dll site to try and confirm the version required, and the software that installed it, remembering that the one you have installed is not necessarily the correct version. (Since you are having DLL issues, the odds are good that it is a version mismatch of some type, and one of the apps you installed either installed an older version, or one that does belongs to another OS). But, the version of that one is still a good (and perhaps only) starting point.

[GaryRouth]

. . . and the little bald fellow with the striped shirt walks slowly to the microphone in the center of the ring:

"You guys are friends & can't raise your voices, because I am the one who has no hair"

[OK, I'm more of a solid pocket-T fellow with peripheral hair atop] -
in the meantime, kmbrln2, since we haven't heard from you, can we assume that you've learned all about the versions of .dlls and found the one(s) you needed?

. . . Gary

[dtex]

[OK, I'm more of a solid pocket-T fellow with peripheral hair atop] -
in the meantime, kmbrln2, since we haven't heard from you, can we assume that you've learned all about the versions of .dlls and found the one(s) you needed?

. . . Gary

That,, or he downloaded the wrong one------and can't get back on line?? Done that myself.

[Dan]

I guess I've learned a bit about restoring .dll files, hope that kmbrln2 has also. I honestly have never had a problem restoring a .dll from the disc or from the site I posted, and was unaware of issues that can arise from it. I guess the limited experience I have in this department has left me with my foot in mouth.
Glad there are folks here with what it takes to keep things straight, hope I've made no "enemies" in the wake...

[galaxian]

Hey Dan, no enemies, at least not here.

Loading any old DLL file and not watching version numbers is the cause of "DLL Hell" or "versionitis", if you have ever heard those terms.

[Dan]

thanks for the link Galaxian...
I guess I've been lucky in the past. While I have always checked version numbers, I have had occasion to use different versions with no problems. The biggest problem I've had is with mfc42.dll.
I have several programs that want to install their own version (overwrite)...for instance Autocad wants to install a much larger version than the retail. After it's install I had a few programs that didn't want to open. However, after install I put the older version back and Autocad ran ok and so did the other programs...go figure....