do i need to upgrade? (win95)

[jptobias]

i was trying to install winzip to a friends computer 200 mhz, 32 mb ram 4.3 hhd and running win-95 when i try to install it tells me that it does not run 32 bit applications or some like that, do i need to upgrade to win-98 to make it run 32 bit aplications or how can i get by this? i have a win98 upgrade cd but nver used it and do not have product keys, he asked somewheres and they chage $95 to do the uopgrade

i have the win 98 full versionb , but he has some info in hhd that he does not want to loose,

can i install a cd-r and save all infi then format hhd and do a clean install of win-98

any suggestions what could it be best thanks

[Nuclear Krusader]

That is very strange since Windows 95 is a 32 bit OS.

What version of Winzip are you trying to install?

I still have the shareware version of Winzip 6 which worked great with W95. You can PM me if you want it.

[jptobias]

winzip 8.1

[mike breck]

Hi guys,

I think the problem is that the HD has been formatted as FAT16 and Windows 95b is therefore installed as 16 bit instead of 32 bit.

Rather than trying to convert the HD to FAT32, I think the simplest solution, as you said Nuke, is to use an older version of WinZip.

You can get the 16 bit version here:

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/zoologie/softw...p/winzip31.exe

HTH

[jptobias]

ok my found the 98 update cd and did it by him self, now it is to late to install early version of winziop sorry, and now he has a new problem
1)- when starts it says win-98 an error windoe pops up
EXPLORER this program has perform an illegal operation and will shut down. if i go to details says: invalid page fault in module SHLWAPI.DLL at 70bd23b2

and nothing shows in desktop only the bottom bar where is the "START" button

if i close the error window (shlwapi.dll) the bottom bar where is the "start" button will desapear and nothig will be on desktop and i will have to restart computer. so i have to leave this erros screen open.

later an other error message will appear about "ms exchange" but i can close it with no problem.

any suggestions to fix this ?
thanks again for all help

[jptobias]

i forgat this
later will show other error message about "MAPISP.DLL" at module 015f:bff7b997

[Nuclear Krusader]

Did you do an upgrade reinstallation or a fresh reinstallation?

[jptobias]

he did an upgrade to his 95

[jptobias]

and thanks for the quick response

[jptobias]

should i try to run the upgrade cd again?

[Nuclear Krusader]

I'd advise backing up his personal data, reformating the drive and doing a clean install of Win98 using the W98 CD. Don't install W95 first! Just W98.

Since it's an upgrade CD at some point during the installation it will ask for either the W95 CD or some of the Win 3.x floppy disks, so be sure to have either of them handy.

[jptobias]

i will do what you said and i have the win-98 full vesion my self
can i back up the drivers (how) like video,audio,modem etc.

[Nuclear Krusader]

Don't you have the drivers' CDs? I dunno of a method to back them up.

If you don't have the discs then b4 you format make a list of them via the Device Manager (WinKey+Break, then click on the Device Manager tab) so you can download them from the web.

I advise you either get the CDs or dowload them drivers b4 you reformat.

[jptobias]

ok, i will do that thank

[jptobias]

one more thing, is there a way to uninstall the upgrade to go back to 95 the way it was at the begining?

[Nuclear Krusader]

If you do the upgrade over W95 without reformatting and during the installation process, when prompted to save the previous config you say Yes; then, yes you can go back.

But if you reformat and do a clean install you won't be able to.

[jptobias]

in case hi clic yes, where can i find ths screen to go and uninstall, i would like to try thar first and if i have more problrms then i will format and do clean install of 98 (full)

[Nuclear Krusader]

Dunno exactly where the uninstall Win98 option is, as I have never used that feature. I assume it's under Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

[jptobias]

i think i will better format and do clean install then, because when i go to add/remove programs and clic it does not do a thing just hangs there. i will get info for drivers and download from net thanks again

[jptobias]

ok , this computer i am talking about is a "packard bell" multimedia r500 , and i found that my brother has the exact same and his is allready upgradesd to 98
here is my question.......
can i format the hhd on my friends computer and then put it on my brother computer as slave and copy all to the slave hhd then remove it and install it back on my friend computer?
can i do this and do i need a software for this?
i want to try this because i can not find drivers for it?
think i found the one for video
and one that is for modem and audio
it has only one isa card and it does audio,modem and game"

[Confused]

You cain't slave the HD to your friends PC and do a Windows copy. Windows will not copy files in use. You would need to be in DOS mode. That's all I will say.
Chas

[glc]

If it's a Packard Bell, you need to use the Packard Bell restore CD to reinstall 95 from scratch. Trying to upgrade one of those things - or even installing 98 clean - is an exercise in futility.

[GaryRouth]

I just finished poking around in a 486 Packard Bell of my daughter's friend - what fun! Such strange riser cards! Rare never-to-be-seen again parts! (but by golly we got the old thing going again)

. . . as glc mentions, Packard Bells are often best left "as is". . . however, if you don't have the Recovery disk set, we'll have to make do with what you've got (and haven't got). . .

Check in Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel to double-check if your friend saved the Win95 configuration or not. If it's not there, oh well - a good place to search for drivers is over at driverguide.com. Another place you can try, if the model is the Multi-Media (also called Symphony) series, is at a european site like this --> http://www.packardbell.co.uk/support/node485.asp
go to the "Symphony - Multi Media" link on the lower right, and see if the specs listed match yours. There are many drivers available right there on that page.

. . . and, if Win98 is running at all & you wish to keep it, you can likely fix the SHLWAPI and MAPISP errors by downloading and installing IE6 with Service Pack 1.

Let us know if you need more help
. . . Gary

[jptobias]

ok this morning i did clean install of 98 and went ok, sound, video and modem are ok wit vrivers provided by 98 cd, after that my friend called me and says he has the restore diskette and cd, i think i will leave it like that an see how it work, the only thing i noticed not working is the microphone. i can change monitor setting ok, and play sound o.k. and also went on to internet o.k. i will go to the site Gary Routh to download drivers anyway thanks all alot

[GaryRouth]

You might be OK with the drivers from the Win98 CD. If the devices seem to have been detected OK, then those drivers are probably fine.

To use the microphone, type sndvol32.exe in the Start/Run box, then from one of the menus, look for the advanced options - you'll need to put a checkmark in a box for the Microphone in both the Playback and Input, and then set the volume you want [set it fairly high for a microphone, but leave it muted when not in use]. The reason it's not working right now is that the microphone input/output line is muted by default.

Glad it's working OK. . . it's the ancient Packard Bells (especially from the late 1980s) that were especially rough to fix. The NEC era Packards are fairly nice machines.
. . . Gary

[jptobias]

thanks i wil try that., also my brother called me and and his computer is the same laike the i am talking about and he had an old printer that work fine on printer port (lpt1) but the printer broke and he bought a new one (usb only) the problem is that the computer does not detect it. i looked inti device manager and i did not see any usb controller. he did not had any important thing on hhd so he format hhd and reinstall win 98, after that went to device manager and still no usb controller and does not detect printer.
could the usb port be defective in mobo?
he had never used usb before,
if we buy a usb card (pci) do we have provabilities to work ok?

[GaryRouth]

Have your brother check in the computer's Bios Setup [press the key at startup that is mentioned in the banner "Press F1 (or Del, F10, etc) to enter Setup"]. He needs to look to see if USB is "Enabled" in there. It needs to be, if he wants to try it. Are there two USB ports up next to the ps/2 mouse and keyboard ports in the back of the computer? If so, then the motherboard is an ATX, and the USB should probably be detected by Win98 and installed once it is enabled in the Bios.

Let me know if he needs more help
. . . Gary

[jptobias]

yes it has 2 usb ports next to mouse and keybord, i will calll him and tell him to check on the bios to anable it . thanks a lot .

[jptobias]

yes that was the problem, the usb port are now enabled and printer working o.k. thanks a lot "GaryRouth"