win98 mouse probs in games

[MrNasty567]

my mouse doesnt work quite right with games, whenever i try to use my scroll button(to scroll or click) it doesnt work, either the game doesnt detect the use of the scroll button or it just makes it screw up.
for example, in black and white, the immediately zooms all of the way out, when i use the scroll button to zoom in, it goes crazy and zooms all the way in, it also doesnt like to look around right, when i click the scroll button, it either works partially(some of the movements of the camera work, others dont) or it just goes crazy and starts looking all over the place.
another example, in UT2003 the scroll button doesnt work at all, i checked the settings and thats set up right, but whenever i do anything at all with the scroll button, whether its clicking or scrolling, nothing happens.
i have tried gettting the newest drivers and i have tried using different mice, neither have fixed the problem, and ive never seen this problem before, nobody i know has ever had anything close to this happen, any ideas as to how to fix this?

[GaryRouth]

This is just a guess (since I don't do much gaming)

1) in Safe Mode, remove all mice
2) uninstall a game (like UT2003) that's having these symptoms
3) reinstall a mouse, don't use any special driver disks, just try the builtin support from your version of Windows.
4) reinstall/re-setup the game

Hope it works
. . . Gary

[MrNasty567]

actually i just recently reinstalled ut2003 and it didnt work before i did it either, and i just installed these drivers like 3 hours ago, but ill try that

[GaryRouth]

Is your mouse a cordless optical? (Logitech as well?) - some tweaks and patches for ut2003 are discussed in the comments section at the bottom of this webpage: http://www.earthv.com/articles.asp?A...703&offset=420

just something I came across, in case the retry/reinstall doesn't fix things
. . . Gary

[MrNasty567]

i forgot to mention that i never had any probs before i installed 98, this comp originally had ME but i had to change to 98, could that have anything to do with it? also, this is a 5 button A4Tech mouse, if that helps any

[MrNasty567]

ive figured out the problem with black and white, for some reason, whenever i scroll up or down with the scroll button, it stays, instead of going out a little bit like it should, it kind of sticks and in order to get it to stop moving, i have to move it in the opposite direction the same number of times, for example, if i want to zoom out, i would use the scroll button to scroll down, and that would zoom out, but if i move it five "bumps"(the clicking or bumping that scroll buttons do when you scroll with them) it will zoom out extremely rapidly and will continue to do so untill i scroll up another 5 times at witch point, going any further up will make it zoom in, and going down will make it zoom out
does that make any sense?

[GaryRouth]

Sounds like game and driver fine-tuning on first glance. An Unreal Tournament site has some navigation pointers in their tutorial: http://www.unrealops.com/tutorials-uedintro1.htm

They mention that the zoom is 20x in the newer UT as opposed to something like 2x in the older. Also stuff about holding down both mouse buttons & moving forward or backward or speeding things up or down. I think those are about four paragraphs down on that page.

My wife once had a similiar problem with the scroll getting "stuck" (scrolling without stopping) with her MS Optical mouse. I just uninstalled the IntelliMouse drivers and used whatever was the default Windows driver, and it was fine after that (this worked for Win98 and Win2000)

If the mouse is OK while browsing the Internet, and while moving through files in Windows Explorer, it would seem to be just a setting in the game somewhere - maybe there's a patch available, or a different driver to try.

The mouse probably acts a differently depending on how hard you depress the scroll wheel/button. Generally, the harder you press the wheel, the faster the action associated action occurs . . . (but I'm not a gaming expert either)
. . . Gary