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06-18-2003, 01:14 PM
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freeze with boot floppy
I'm trying to re-install Win98SE on a PIII 600 with 256mb SDRAM and 13gb HDD.
I load the boot floppy (I've tried several) and start the PC - when it loads the CDROM driver from the floppy, it freezes. I've tried swapping all the IDE cables, floppy cable, floppy drive, HDD, SDRAM, set the BIOS to defaults... Anyone help please? TIA |
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06-18-2003, 05:29 PM
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check the fan on the cpu is working
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06-18-2003, 05:32 PM
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It seems to be fine
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06-18-2003, 06:31 PM
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Have you tried another cd-rom.
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06-19-2003, 03:24 AM
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Yes - still no joy...
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06-19-2003, 03:36 AM
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This might seem crazy, but try a different set of keyboards and mice. Sometimes these stop a boot just before or after the optical drives
Might want to page through the Bios manually, too, since you've had a lot of things coming and going. & try that setting with ECSD (or is it ESCD?) to Enabled (this makes the Bios re-detect the hardware, and then changes it's setting back to the default of Disabled after it's done) mostly guessing . . . Gary [p.s. ...and I've had the best luck with bootdisks from the same version of Windows as the hard drive] Last edited by GaryRouth; 06-19-2003 at 03:38 AM. |
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06-19-2003, 03:57 AM
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OK Gary - I'll give it a go.
Do you think a faulty processor might cause this? |
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06-19-2003, 09:46 AM
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Have you tried setting the CD-ROM as the first boot device in BIOS and then running the Win98 install directly from the CD?
Are you getting the one good BIOS beep at startup? What motherboard are you using? What parts do you have assembled when trying to install Win98? You should have just the motherboard, CPU, heatsink, video card, RAM, hard drive, CD-ROM and floppy with no other cards installed until after Win98 is installed. Those old Slot 1 CPU's were pretty tough...I'd suspect the motherboard before the CPU in this case. But do you have spare parts to swap and test with...like a motherboard and another Slot 1 CPU? Are you overclocking the CPU?  Cricket
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06-20-2003, 01:46 AM
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. . . and, to add one more question:
What errors/reasons led you to try the reinstall just before this? [sorry for so many questions - sounds like a MSCE exam sometimes, doesn't it?] . . . Gary [I like Crickets list. I haven't had any cpus die on me yet - they all had to be retired because of the onward march of faster cpus and mainboards. . . I still have original P100s and P166s that I use as backups for testing old Socket 7 boards that are still working as well today as way back when] |
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06-20-2003, 02:37 AM
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I thought the PIII was robust too.
It's an Asus P2B-S 'board (100mhz) and if I stick a PIII 600 in (133mhz) it works fine but only at 450mhz because of a limit on the clock multiplier. That's why I thought there was a CPU problem. The PC is a rebuild/upgrade. Initial install was done with just the componenets Cricket listed. Thanks for the suggestions so far! |
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06-20-2003, 03:23 AM
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Does the customer still have the original cpu around? (or, like Cricket mentioned, another Slot 1 of any kind) - seems like that would make it interesting.
I don't have that much experience with Slot 1, but on other platforms when I've had folks with problem cpus, the boards wouldn't boot at all. The freezing up syndrome I've mostly seen on the Amd side of life, with heat playing the part of the villian. Earlier you mentioned the fans seem OK: I suppose you could look in on the bios temps & see if it looks good there too. Interesting looking board: are you using the onboard SCSI at all? Is it disabled or enabled by default? (if you're not using it, you could see if disabling it changes anything) . . . Gary |
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06-23-2003, 10:46 AM
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I've had to pass it back - for the time being fitted with a PIII450.
Is it possible to test slot1 CPU's? TIA |
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06-25-2003, 02:28 AM
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I usually use something like the SiSoft Sandra software to run a few burn-in tests, and benchmarks, just to see if things look OK. It has a free version available for download at http://www.sisoftware.co.uk
I believe it will run tests as far back as a 486. I don't know of any hardware device for testing cpus, but perhaps someone else has more information on that. [Intel has such equipment - they test everything they make - costs them a fortune. But that equipment is the stuff of the production process. My guess would be that software testing is as good as it gets for the end user to test his cpu - anything more would probably be cost-prohibitive] . . . Gary |
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06-25-2003, 05:52 AM
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Thanks for all the help - I have successfully fitted the CPU in a different motherboard so it must have been a conflict (both boards were set up for 100mhz X 6 to suit).
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06-27-2003, 12:32 AM
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Glad you got it all fixed up. Nice that all the parts still kept their value.
. . . Gary |
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