Long boot up time

[Force Flow]

My boot up time for win98SE is about 1min 20sec (the time on the logo at startup). Waaay too long if you ask me. Is there anything I can do to shorten that time? I've cleared my temp folders, scanned for spyware, scanned for viruses and defragged (virus and spyware scan came up clean).

Is there anything else I can do?

[HAL9000]

How much stuff do you have in the startup section of MSCONFIG.... if you have a lot of things starting... its going to slow you down drastically.... actually... depending how much you have... 80 seconds isn't unreasonable or unusual.

[Force Flow]

Not much. I'm in XP right now, so I can't check it, but I think I have 7-10 things checked.
NAV, Norton firewall, Sygate, & Asus Probe are the only progs loading at startup.

[edit]: Almost forgot: this long boot-up has only started since I replaced my motherboard and CPU. Before it was only about 5-10 sec.

[TwoRails]

Hi Force Flow,

Ya, it really does depend on what's loaded. For example, my main box takes at least a minute or longer to fireup. It has multi scanners hooked up, printers, tablets, etc. And the firewalls and AV's, etc...

But my other machine, also a 98.2 box, is just an email box and a client to this one. It reboots in about 20 seconds, as there is nothing much loaded, just an All-in-One.

HTH

TwoRails

[andyms18a]

did you do a clean install of windows affter replacing your mobo as that may be your prob windows may be looking for stuff that is not thair

[Force Flow]

No, I didn't do a clean install. I used the ENUM trick.

I just redid my 300MHz machine, and it has the same things loading at startup. Its startup time is 5 sec.

Would the number of progs installed make a difference? I've got about 75-100 installed.

[Cricket]

Originally posted by force_flow2002 I just redid my 300MHz machine, and it has the same things loading at startup. Its startup time is 5 sec.

Are you saying that when you had the 300MHz system running, it could boot to Win 98SE in 5 seconds? That's faster than anything I've ever seen. Best Win98SE system I've seen was running a 1.4GHz 266MHz T-Bird...booted to the Windows desktop in about 17 seconds.

Cricket

[Dan]

FF-
the number of programs installed shouldn't make a difference.
my humble guess is what you have loading at startup.
AV always takes up a lot of time, as do firewalls.
I have only a minimum # of things load at startup...then load AV, firewalls, etc., manually after I'm at desktop...and only when I need them.

[Dreamscape]

Boot Log Analyzer

[Force Flow]

Originally posted by Cricket Are you saying that when you had the 300MHz system running, it could boot to Win 98SE in 5 seconds? That's faster than anything I've ever seen. Best Win98SE system I've seen was running a 1.4GHz 266MHz T-Bird...booted to the Windows desktop in about 17 seconds.

That's not including POST.

That's another 5 sec.

[Doobie]

Originally posted by Cricket Are you saying that when you had the 300MHz system running, it could boot to Win 98SE in 5 seconds? That's faster than anything I've ever seen. Best Win98SE system I've seen was running a 1.4GHz 266MHz T-Bird...booted to the Windows desktop in about 17 seconds. Cricket

5-10 secs I belive is Normal.... My PIII takes about 7 secs to load... thats including post... (WinMe)

I dont have much just windows and office.... Nothing but the basic windows startup options on boot....

[TwoRails]

Well... programs in general don't extend boot times, but it depends on what they are. Obviously, Firewalls and AV prgs consume boot time, scanner utilities and printer utilities do, CDRW and DVDRW prgs do, etc.. etc.. Any programs that loads stuff like drivers and utilities do, even if the actual program doesn't fireup on bootup. As I indicted above, there is a minutes differenct bertween two of my Win 98.2 box.

[Force Flow]

Okay, here's my boot log analysis. (Thanks, Dreamscape!) The only problem is, I don't know what to do about the entries that take a long time to load.

My specs are in my sig.

[Cricket]

Originally posted by force_flow2002 That's not including POST. That's another 5 sec.

That's still only 10 seconds. A 300MHz system that cold boots to the Win98SE desktop in only 10 seconds? My own PII 400MHz system takes about a minute or so to cold boot to the Win98SE desktop, but it does a boot sector scan with AVG...still, I've never seen a computer under 1GHz cold boot a fresh install of Win98SE to the desktop in under 15 seconds. My own DELL 300MHz system takes almost 2 minutes to cold boot to the Win98SE desktop, but that PC has a 5400 RPM hard drive and the DELL POST sequence is fairly slow. I'm just amazed at how fast your 300MHz system cold boots.

Originally posted by Doobie 5-10 secs I belive is Normal.... My PIII takes about 7 secs to load... thats including post... (WinMe)

You can't compare the boot up times between Win98SE to WinME, the boot up process for WinME is very different.

Cricket

[Force Flow]

Part of the reason it boots quickly is probably because I put a new HDD in. A WD 40GB 7200rpm 8MB cache drive.

Now, about my power build's boot time...
Why does it look like it's trying to detect a tape drive? Can I get rid of that?

[Cricket]

Originally posted by force_flow2002 Part of the reason it boots quickly is probably because I put a new HDD in. A WD 40GB 7200rpm 8MB cache drive.

My PII 400MHz system has a 7200 RPM hard drive (30GB 2MB cache Maxtor something or other)...it still doesn't boot to the Win98SE desktop nearly as fast as your 300MHz system did. And my PII 400MHz is a 100MHz FSB processor while the 300MHz is 66MHz FSB processor. I just don't understand it.

Cricket

[Force Flow]

That system uses a Cyrix MII, if that makes much of a difference. Gigabyte board with an ALADIN5 chipset, I believe. 96MB RAM (2 sticks: 64MB and 32MB), and ATI Rage II 4MB video card. I don't really know a whole lot more about it...

[Cricket]

Cyrix MII?! That's one of the poorest performing CPU's ever made...I thought you had a Intel PII. Now I'm even more confused. Oh well, it's a mystery...

Cricket

[Force Flow]

I recall someone saying on the boards (it may have been you, Cricket, I can't remember) that just because systems may have identical HW and SW, doesn't mean they will perform in exactly the same way.

[Cricket]

Originally posted by force_flow2002 I recall someone saying on the boards (it may have been you, Cricket, I can't remember) that just because systems may have identical HW and SW, doesn't mean they will perform in exactly the same way.

I guess...but I've built at least 30 Win98SE computers (from a Pentium 233MHz MMX to a 1.4GHz 266MHz T-Bird...the rest of the computers I've built have been WinXP systems of 1.6GHz and up, about 20 so far) and none of them cold booted to the Windows desktop in only 10 seconds.

I've never built a WinME computer, but I understand they will cold boot to the Windows desktop really fast.

I'm just basing my amazement on my own past experiences.

Cricket

[Force Flow]

*shrug* You got me...

[toomyg]

Hmm I remember my laptop used to take almost a minute to boot up BUT now I have NIS installed it takes 2 minutes maybe a little more

I know it sucks but I guess it's the price you pay to feel safe

[andyms18a]

you have a few failed loads try this prog http://www.winguides.com/regmech/

[Sinic]

Your system will boot up alot faster if you make sure that in your Bios, your Hard drive is your first boot device. If it is'nt it will look to your rom and floppy drives for a drive command until it reaches your hard drive for a boot command.

[Force Flow]

That's not where the hang is. If you take a look at my attachment, it shows what is taking a long time to load. The problem is that I have no idea on how to amend them.

[edit]: Thanks for the link, andyms18a

[Force Flow]

Phooey. That prog didn't help any. Seemed to be on par with Norton System works. It wanted me to delete things that were in use and that would definately cripple my system.

So, I back where I started.

[andyms18a]

Originally posted by force_flow2002 Phooey. That prog didn't help any. Seemed to be on par with Norton System works. It wanted me to delete things that were in use and that would definately cripple my system. So, I back where I started.

if it wants to delete things thay will not be in use its invalid reg entreys it wants to remove ie entreys in the reg that point to missing or moved file or programs i use it weekley and have never had a problam leting it fix all the problams it finds.

[Force Flow]

Hmm...

Anyone else use it?

[Doobie]

I havent used that one to clean my registry but this is the one I use and I have never had any problems...

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[Force Flow]

Doesn't RegCleaner only clean out reg entries associated with programs?