Don't Understand Windows/Dialers...

[Naja]

I am currently using XP Pro, but had the same basic problem with ME.

My default dialer is "MSN Explorer". Basically, I cannot create/use any dialer other than this "MSN Explorer". When I do, all I get is: Error 691 "username and/or password is invalid on this domain". The username/password are correct. Plus I've tried every possible combination I can think of.

I've been into the control panel to the "Network Connections" and "Internet Options". I've used the wizard and done everything that I can think of, but I'm missing something somewhere. And Again: "MSN Explorer" won't let me see its settings-so I cannot compare them or anything. I've tried my admin user/pass, my MSN account user/pass, etc. Nothing works.

I click on the "MSN Explorer" and connect right up--no problem.

So, if anybody knows how to do this, please help me out.
I'm at my wits end with this one.

Thanx!

[andyms18a]

hi naja are you trying to set up a new dile up conection to a new isp if so you need the user name and password for the new isp not the one you use for msn

[Naja]

Hi Andy, No I am still trying to connect up to MSN. I am stuck with them until January-THEN I'll be hooking up to a different ISP.
Basically, I would like to get away from this "MSN Explorer" which I guess is IE6, and just use the IE5.5 that's in my program files, plus use a redialer when I DL music, etc. But the MSN Explorer dialer doesn't give access to its settings and the whole MSN Explorer thing is hidden behind a shortcut in program files that points to: "C:\Program Files\MSN\MSNCoreFiles\msn6.exe"

I'ved tried creating new dialers through XP with the wizard, etc-setting them up automatically and manually. I've tried using my redialer (CiDial), but it won't even recognize "MSN Explorer" so when it connects up it gets the user/pass is invalid. The redialer will recognize a new dialer I create through XP, but it doesn't matter whether I usr the new dialer I created or the redialer--both get the "Invalid username/password" response from the server. The only thing that connects up is this "MSN Explorer" Dialer. and it doesn't REdial. when I get disconnected it just sits there.

Any thoughts anybody?

[andyms18a]

try control panal internet options and change the defult web page vewer to internet explorer and in the conections tab set to dial defult conection and auto redial if conection is lost to on

[Naja]

Ok, thought we had something but its not working. I went and did as u suggested and this is the result:

"MSN Explorer" doesn't let me know when I've been disconnected->I have to figure it out for my self. Close the main window and then it goes to a pop-up type window so I can "disconnect"->even though I'm ALREADY disconnected!

Anyway, went through that, and just before I went to reconnect through the MSN Explorer window a regular windows dialer that I created popped up. In it is two options for connecting the "MSN Explorer" or the "MSN" dialer that I created. So, I tried the one I created, no luck, same invalid user/pass. I tried the MSN Explorer through this dialer and it just says instantly that it cannot make a connection.

BUT what I did notice is that the MSN Explorer apparently creates its OWN user/pass that it communicates to the server.

I tried copying and pasting that in to the MSN dialer that I created (in the box and in the settings) and I get the same invalid user/pass.

So, atleast now I know what the username is. I don't know what the password is because its starred out, but its 16 characters long which is 5 characters longer than what it should be. However, the password is 16 characters long on either dialing option (MSN Explorer/MSN).

We are making progress. I don't know how much, but its progresss. Can the core files be accessed, and how? I dont want to change anything--just see if I can find some info. MSN Explorer's values are intentionally hidden by M$.