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10-03-2003, 10:45 PM
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2000 on old computer
A friend has an old amd 350 with win95 and wants to put 2000 on it. Isn't there some old hardware that is not compatable with 2000? Is there a way that we can test it using the 2000 cd before we format the hd?
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10-03-2003, 10:52 PM
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I have a box with an AMD K6/2 450, PC100 memory that I upgraded from 98SE to 2000Pro and it runs great, hasn't crashed yet.
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10-03-2003, 10:52 PM
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Look at the requirements for Win2K. You can do it, but I think you'll be disappointed. Check out the HCL. http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/search.mspx
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10-03-2003, 11:13 PM
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Your friend may find it is far more reliable and somewhat faster than with 98. Gatta have at least 64megs ram to do it right, 128 is great and 256 is awesome for 2k. Disable all the services you don't need and it'll need even less ram for the system cache.
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10-03-2003, 11:26 PM
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Best I remember her box has 64mb ram. Where can I find more info on disabling services and which ones to disable?
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10-03-2003, 11:38 PM
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What mobo does he have? I'd check it against the HCL if it were me. Blakhart disagrees, but, if it were me...
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10-04-2003, 01:02 AM
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Well, barring hardware incompatibilities, I can send you my list of 2k services that are "disableable", but it really isn't for anyone who is timid with this sort of thing. If you disable service(s) you shouldn't have, you might not be able to boot, or some other important function is now gone. You can always enable that wich is needed, but ya gatta be able to boot. Best part is when you get into disabling them, they have explanations of what they do, and their dependancies; what else is affected by the service in question. So you might try your hand anyway. I do this in xp as well. If you want the best list of services to disable, find a copy of the services run by server2003, the server os version of xp. Anyway, see if you can find some more mem, and her box should run great with 2k. You will want a firewall too, if this box will go online, so don't forget. I have used both kerio and tiny firewalls on 2k, they run fine and as I recall they are now the same thing. I might be wrong about them being the same, but they are out there for free anyway. Don't waste your time with za, but za may be easier to manage.
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10-04-2003, 09:34 AM
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I will find out about the mobo. I guess I need to find out about the video and modem too. I'll have to open up the box and look to see what's in it. I put it together a few years ago.... but that was a few years ago
 I was hoping there was a way that the 2000 cd would check it out for me, before formating the hd. I can pick up a stick of ram for her too, if the mobo and stuff checks out. I have disabled some things on my xp machine. So, I know I can do it. But, I would like to have a list of things that could be disabled so I don't run into the kind of problems you're talking about. She wants 2000 so she can play some game. It's not a game that would take a lot of cpu or memory. So, I think it will be ok if the hardware is compatable. |
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10-04-2003, 11:09 PM
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http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
This is a good service list to start with, although he has been set straight/corrected on some things over time. I tried to copy my services list but it won't let me copy. Sorry. When I get my server back on 2k I will do a write up on the services specific to 2k and the firewall for ya, if ya want. |
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10-05-2003, 01:58 AM
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While on this topic!!
I have an older laptop running on WIN98SE, do I have to back up all of my files if I just wanted to upgrade to 2000? The laptop is a toshiba 2500CDS with 96MB of RAM, can I jusy insert the Win2000 CD to do the upgrade? |
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10-05-2003, 02:36 AM
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I always do a clean install, less probs that way.
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10-05-2003, 03:02 AM
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Great!
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10-06-2003, 05:04 PM
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I don't think running W2000 should be much of a problem on an older PC. I have had a Compaq Deskpro P400mhz running very well on 256mbRAM. So any issues once you have enough memory would perhaps be with drivers for modem /sound cards. You could try Windows NT drivers if your modem is not hardware. Sound cards are cheap to buy.
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10-06-2003, 06:07 PM
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Wouldn't Win2K automatically detect new hardware and install the proper drivers?
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10-06-2003, 07:41 PM
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MultiGroup, Not all hardware is supported by NT,XP & 2000. I have a laptop that I put xp on and the modem isn't supported. The nt drivers won't work and the last time I checked compaq does not plan an updated driver. See the post above by AlwaysUp.
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10-07-2003, 08:37 AM
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Why not make a dual boot machine so you could remove w2000 later if you did not like it or had hardware problems? You could still retain your original W95 operating system.
If you are not sure then W98 might be a better way to go. Mike. |
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10-07-2003, 02:07 PM
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MultiGroup, My only experience upgrading a laptop from one "proprietary" OS that had been original installation, (Win 95) to an upgrade copy of Win98 fe, met with pretty bad results. All of the battery and power management that was unique to that laptop's install/recovery cd were wiped out and now that sucker will only work when direct power is applied. The battery was kaput anyway, and there is none to be found on the net or the Manufacturer's (CTX International) website. The company no longer makes laptops and there are no OS upgrades reccommended or available through them. So I obviously have reservations of upgrading laptops without the manufacturer's release of the new OS. My two cents.
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10-07-2003, 02:15 PM
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if you have the recovery CD then you can always go back to your original setup.
With a lap top i think i would make sure i had all the original drivers before i changed the operating system. With a desktop you can of course upgrade some of the peripheral devices if need be. Mike. |
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10-07-2003, 02:18 PM
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Yeah, but my wife got this old laptop from her workplace for nothing. It does what she wants and she likes Win98. All her bible study and personal writings are there. She dislikes Win95, calls it clunky. I won't argue.
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10-07-2003, 02:26 PM
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Witness, what game does she want to play that will work under 2K but not 98?
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10-07-2003, 04:36 PM
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Well, upgrade to W98 then. You can always go back to W95
as the W98 setup allows you to retain your original setup. The original question was about W2000 Q. How can I test if my system is Windows 2000 compatible? ( Ihave not tried this) A. If you have the Windows 2000 CD you can check your installations hardware and software by using the /checkupgradeonly switch of winnt32.exe If you goto http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...ch/devices.asp there is a limited help site. Try this site. http://www.ntfaq.com/Articles/Index....partmentID=811 Mike |
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