IE upgrade question

[waiting]

We upgraded Internet Explorer 5 to 6. After installing we checked our "cipher strength".

Ciper Strength read 0-bits. However 0-bits should read 128bits. How do we correct this blunder?

Looking forward to yur answers....thank you.......George

PS: Using Windows 98

[glc]

I recommend you revert IE back to 5.x, half the time when you put IE 6 on a 98 box, it causes problems.

[waiting]

Thanks for the tip....George

[waiting]

Hi glc: I've gone to the Microsoft site and we now have instructions on how to uninstall IE-6 and Restore to our previous version of IE 5.0
Is it an easy uninstall as microsoft implies, or does MS throw curves at us? If MS doesn't like our uninstall will we beable to boot up again? Oh, such basic questions. Looking forward to your reply.........Thanks......... George

[glc]

It's very easy - just find IE6 in add/remove programs, click add/remove, and choose restore previous configuration.

[waiting]

glc: Thank you. One more question - have you ever uninstalled IE6 and restored to a previous version? ... ...Sometimes during an uninstall....
ms will ask about shared files etc...I think you know what I'm
getting at.

[waverider]

This is for Waitings problem, he has been helping me with my computer. We originally tried to upgrade IE 5 to a 6 because Norton system works 2003 required an IE 5.o1. Now thanks to glcs and others advice we tried to uninstall the IE6.What happened was we did a "successful" uninstall, but the cipher strength still showed 0 bit.We tried to upgrade the security to 128 bit as instructed by microsoft but it did not work. While we were trying to do this we lost the use of the antivirus part of Norton. I know there is no virus because we did a scan yesterday. Our registry checks ok according to Norton. As it stands now we have used GO_BACK, and reverted the drive back to IE6 and a working antivirus. We are at a loss now. Any and all advice will be truly appreciated

[waverider]

One other thing is that AOl seems to be involved in this too, as the AOL sign on screen jumps up often with out clicking on it.This has happened since we installed Norton System works and IE 6. Maybe its a clue for the tech professors out there.

[GaryRouth]

Hi all

The AOL sign-on screen jumping up automatically is probably just your Norton antivirus attempting to connect for virus definitions and updates, if you have that feature set to autoconnect. To change this sort of behavior, check around in the Norton help files for it's automatic update [also called LiveUpDate] setup instructions.

I'm a little surprised that the Norton disk didn't have all the necessary versions there on the disk. [Usually, you'd think that if it required IE 5.01, it would bundle a version on the installation disk]. At any rate, at the moment it sounds like you have a working Norton, a working AOL, and a working IE --> but the cypher strength is either not working, or is improperly reported. . . . If you want to give the current setup another go at 128-bit encryption, try the "Method 2" section of the following MS artcile http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1

If you use that fix, you'll rename a few files, then redownload and install IE6 again, with the "Reinstall all components" option.

See if that does it. If it doesn't, you'll probably have to uninstall Norton, uninstall AOL, uninstall IE6. Then reinstall AOL, download and install IE 5.01 SP2, and reinstall Norton.

Let's hope the easier route works!
. . . Gary

[waiting]

We tried method two. MS wanted us to rename three files.
Schannel.dll----rename to .old
Rsabase.dll-----rename to .old
Rsaenh.dll------rename to .old

The 1st problem is: Schannel.dll is missing
How can we find this missing file?

The 2nd problem is:
We tried renaming the other two files
but ms would not let us rename the files


Maybe we could rename these files in SafetyMode?

[GaryRouth]

If you have either the Windows installation CD, or a bootable floppy disk, you can boot with one of those into DOS ["start computer with CD-rom support", if you use the CD] and rename the files in DOS.

For the missing file, from Windows Explorer go to the Tools item in the toolbar, choose Find/Files or Folders . . . and enter Schannel*.* and have it search your entire hard drive. If it's not there, heck no problem - your new download needs to replace it anyway.

I wonder if spyware/viruses might be active in this case. If you don't already have AdAware and Search&Destroy installed, might be a good time to try them [http://www.lavasoft.de . . . and . . . http://spybot.safer-networking.de] And run a full system scan with your AntiVirus. Might try an online double-check with TrendMicro's HouseCall http://housecall.trendmicro.com

Those are just to make sure little troublemakers aren't messing with your encryption so that they can explore your data.
. . . Gary

[Oh, I forgot to mention the DOS grammar: it would be
ren schannel.dll schannel.old
. . . I think my foggy memory is in the neighborhood anyway]

[waiting]

I was looking for a quick simple way to find the missing file "Schannel.dll" So I went into my old HP desktop compouter which has Windows98SE in it. I copied the missing file "Schannel.dll" to a floppy and then renamed the
the file to "Schannel.old" as ms had instructed me to do.

Question is: Since I copied the file from Win98 Second Edition..............
...can I put in another computer that has Win98

[waiting]

Gary: Thanks for your input. We ran a virus scan and there are no viruses. We also checked our registry....and thats ok.
Scan disk is ok.....

AOL5 was popping up when we didn't want it to....so we installed AOL-7......Now the computer doesn't want to make a complete shut down....so we have to power down. Any ideas out there? Bet there are.......G

[GaryRouth]

Hi again

1) It doesn't matter what version of schannel.dll you used, since it ended up renamed to schannel.old anyway. You should have a nice new matching set of those dlls from your latest IE download if you did that next step.
---> Did it solve your encryption strength dilemma?

2) If your AntiVirus program also scans for trojans and spyware, you can feel pretty good about a clean machine. If it only checks for viruses, though, I'd still recommend a run of AdAware and Search&Destroy.

3) For your Shutdown issues, there is a pretty good troubleshooter over at http://www.aumha.org (you can pick which versions of Windows to Troubleshoot). My first guess would be to ask if you completely uninstalled AOL 5 before installing AOL 7. Either way, in fact, it might be interesting to see if everything shuts down fine if you uninstall either one or both [my first bet would be to uninstall both]. Might try either Norton's Registry Cleaner (if that's not what you already checked the Registry with) or Microsoft's RegClean 4.1 - (as long as you don't have Office 2000 on that machine - they're somewhat incompatible)

That machine is giving you quite a workout. Maybe it will take a coffee break soon.
. . . Gary

[waiting]

Hi Gary R: The floppy with the schanel.old file is sitting here. Thanks for letting me
know I can put it in the other machine. No, the encryption strength problem has not
been solved yet.

2) We're using Norton System Works 2003. I don't know if it scans for spyware...
Your AdAware and Search&Destroy is unknown to me.

3) Your site: http://www.umha.org/ is heavy duty....eeehhhhh? We did not uninstall
AOL5 before installing 7. We ran Norton's "One button" and the registry was ok. We're
using Windows98 on that laptop.

Today's problem... While booting up, microsoft asked us for our password.So naturally
AOL tried to start.....then Microsoft would not accept our password. We booted up using
GoBack.....and then we cancelled using ms sign in password box.

Then we tried to use our HP printer....One of its lights constantly flash and it
does it spooling, but it refuses to print.

On the light side....the AOL7 is working faster than the 5. And it shutdown the correct way. I'm tired. Hope you
can understand this...night....night

[GaryRouth]

Hi again -

1) since the encryption issue is still there, and since we don't know if Norton checks for keyloggers and other spyware, it seems like a good idea to try AdAware and/or Search&Destroy. They are very well recognized in their field [which is fairly new, but growing rapidly as new threats appear]. The links I posted in the earlier reply take you directly to the author's sites, but if you'd like a site where you can read reviews for these programs, check over at Download.com - they've added a special section for AntiVirus and AntiSpyware. It used to be under "System Utilities", but I haven't been over there for awhile. Shouldn't be hard to find, though. (you can always simply search by the software's title).

2) SystemWorks has Norton AntiVirus 2003, that's for sure - but unless there's a separate module, or enhanced version (as compared to the standalone retail AV2003) - that version doesn't have an antispyware module that I know of.

3) Hope you went to aumha rather than umha (which seems to be some healthcare site) The Shutdown TroubleShooter you'd be looking for is in the Win98 section.

4) When you said Microsoft asked for a password, are you referring to a logon at startup to enter windows? Or are you on a local network, and the password is necessary for that?

5) You can disable all sorts of AOL automatic nonsense in their Options/Preferences menus. Hunt around - don't let AOL start at system startup. I recommend doing most things manually with AOL [you can keep a better eye on things that way, and might catch any suspicious activity earlier]

6) If you uninstalll/reinstall your HP printer it will probably work OK. All the Go Back & Forth [ ] has probably disrupted the drivers. Might check the cables first, though, to rule out a simple loose connection [or lack of ink!].

7) just for luck. Lucky 7 = perhaps today is the day your computer experiences it's cure.
. . . Gary

[waiting]

Hi Gary: Comment 4---ms wanted a password for starting up windows.

5) Yes, good idea. I think I'll click around aol to see if I can
disable it. Even though items are turned off in the start up menu... some programs will still start.. so we've gone into the programs to disable them when windows starts up. AOL needs
to be disabled.

6) I wondered about uninstalling the printer. According to the
HP manual it needs a new ink cartridge....but we just put a
new ink cartridge in it. Crazy light still blinks with the new
or old cartridge......

Thanks for yur comments.