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Blakhart · 02-15-2002, 01:06 AM

Hey HAL!
Can I cut a ide cable to about 7 inches from the mobo(blue) connector, and disassemble the master conector and reassemble it on the cut end?
Will this work? I have about 7 inches to go from the mobo to the drive and here I have to smoosh 18 inches of ide cable wherever itll go. The drive is the only thing on the cable. I wonder if there would be a performance increase due to latency and signal loss being lessened.
Thanx in advance!

Chris

**HAL9000** · 02-15-2002, 07:57 AM

You could, but I would just fold up the excess neatly and cable tie it, far less work.

Blakhart · 02-19-2002, 07:28 PM

I wanted you to say that thats the secret way to getting 4000 more points in 3dmark!! And adds tweny gigs of space to any hard drive...
Thanks anyway!

Steegs · 02-21-2002, 12:43 PM

well i shortened one in philosophy class today and im rather weary on trying it out on my only up and running system cause its kinda hard to realign all those leads

.

if it works on a plextor dvd drive, does that mean it will work on a hard drive? or does the dvd drive not use all the cables the hard drive does?

-steegs

**HAL9000** · 02-21-2002, 01:10 PM

Yea... it will work.

Blakhart · 02-21-2002, 02:45 PM

I decided to risk it and have had good results so far at about 5 inches of cable. The cable pretty well aligns itself but you never know if the pins got bent when you took it apart or re assembled it.
I really feel that it has made a positive effect on drive access and transfers.

Blakhart · 02-23-2002, 02:46 PM

Upon examining an IDE cable that I pulled from service I noticed that there is a perfectly made punch where there is a section missing of one wire about 4mm long in only that one wire.The cut is about a centimeter from the mobo connector and with the connector key faceing down, it is approximately the 14th wire. The cut is perfect only exciseing one wire. This is an 80 wire jobbie of indeterminate brand, but theres a word, "ACTUONE", printed with all the rateing bs. What is the cut for, anyone??!!??

downing911 · 02-23-2002, 03:02 PM

I really feel that it hasn't had an effect on your drive tranfers, except for making your case less cluttered.

**HAL9000** · 02-23-2002, 03:14 PM

Check out this thread where I got really bored and mapped out an 80 wire cable. Not all of the wires are connected to all three connectors. The company that manufactured your cable punched out a wire to have the same effect as not connecting to a pin on the connector.

joe merc · 02-23-2002, 04:20 PM

All 80 wire ATA 100 cables have this punch. It disconnects 1 pin. It is used for cable select. Automatic configuration of drives.
Personally I have never used cable select because when u get a drive it is by default generally the master.

If a person had 2 drives then this would require the reconfiguration of jumpers which is simple enough to do or change the jumpers to use cable select. Personally I have never bothered with cable select.

Blakhart · 02-23-2002, 04:58 PM

Should have read HALs post about the cables and I wouldnta bothered yas.
PS how do I add downing911 to my ignore list?

**HAL9000** · 02-23-2002, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe merc
All 80 wire ATA 100 cables have this punch. It disconnects 1 pin. It is used for cable select. Automatic configuration of drives.

Not all have that wire punched. Many just don't have a pin connected to the wire as I posted in this thread that I mentioned above.

Colonel Sanders · 02-23-2002, 06:18 PM

What about if you put the connector on at a 45 degree angle or so? wouldn't you get problems with the delays? Has this ben done before without any problems with the signal delays?

Logan

Paul Victorey · 02-23-2002, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logan_85
What about if you put the connector on at a 45 degree angle or so? wouldn't you get problems with the delays? Has this ben done before without any problems with the signal delays?

Logan

You couldn't; the connector won't fit like that.

The connector has to be perpendicular to the cable for the teeth to properly attach to all of the wires as it should.

If you did, you'd have some problems with propagation delays.

joe merc · 02-24-2002, 12:40 AM

Not all have that wire punched. Many just don't have a pin connected to the wire as I posted in this thread that I mentioned above.
==============================================================================

I will correct what I said in a previous post. All the ATA 100 cables I HAVE SEEN have had the check in the cable.

**HAL9000** · 02-24-2002, 01:53 AM

Colonel Sanders · 02-24-2002, 06:54 PM

hmm, I guess your right that the connectors have to be parallel, but it would look neat to have one attached at a 45 degree angle(baybe useless, but cool).

Logan

02-15-2002, 01:06 AM	#1
Blakhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in harms way Posts: 2,768	Can I cut a ide cable shorter? Hey HAL! Can I cut a ide cable to about 7 inches from the mobo(blue) connector, and disassemble the master conector and reassemble it on the cut end? Will this work? I have about 7 inches to go from the mobo to the drive and here I have to smoosh 18 inches of ide cable wherever itll go. The drive is the only thing on the cable. I wonder if there would be a performance increase due to latency and signal loss being lessened. Thanx in advance! Chris Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-15-2002, 07:57 AM	#2
HAL9000 Red-eyed Moderator Staff Premium Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,576	You could, but I would just fold up the excess neatly and cable tie it, far less work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ -At Ford, quality is job #1, job #2 is making them explode. ~Norm MacDonald, SNL News -Switching to Glide..Balancing in my head..inside of me... taking the glide path instead.

02-19-2002, 07:28 PM	#3
Blakhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in harms way Posts: 2,768	ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH I wanted you to say that thats the secret way to getting 4000 more points in 3dmark!! And adds tweny gigs of space to any hard drive... Thanks anyway! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-21-2002, 12:43 PM	#4
Steegs Member (7 bit) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: pretending im not in erie Posts: 79	well i shortened one in philosophy class today and im rather weary on trying it out on my only up and running system cause its kinda hard to realign all those leads. if it works on a plextor dvd drive, does that mean it will work on a hard drive? or does the dvd drive not use all the cables the hard drive does? -steegs Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-21-2002, 01:10 PM	#5
HAL9000 Red-eyed Moderator Staff Premium Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,576	Yea... it will work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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02-21-2002, 02:45 PM	#6
Blakhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in harms way Posts: 2,768	I decided to risk it and have had good results so far at about 5 inches of cable. The cable pretty well aligns itself but you never know if the pins got bent when you took it apart or re assembled it. I really feel that it has made a positive effect on drive access and transfers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 02:46 PM	#7
Blakhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in harms way Posts: 2,768	Hey! * is this??!!?** Upon examining an IDE cable that I pulled from service I noticed that there is a perfectly made punch where there is a section missing of one wire about 4mm long in only that one wire.The cut is about a centimeter from the mobo connector and with the connector key faceing down, it is approximately the 14th wire. The cut is perfect only exciseing one wire. This is an 80 wire jobbie of indeterminate brand, but theres a word, "ACTUONE", printed with all the rateing bs. What is the cut for, anyone??!!?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 03:02 PM	#8
downing911 Member (6 bit) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 52	I really feel that it hasn't had an effect on your drive tranfers, except for making your case less cluttered. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 03:14 PM	#9
HAL9000 Red-eyed Moderator Staff Premium Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 17,576	Check out this thread where I got really bored and mapped out an 80 wire cable. Not all of the wires are connected to all three connectors. The company that manufactured your cable punched out a wire to have the same effect as not connecting to a pin on the connector. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 04:20 PM	#10
joe merc Member (5 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 24	All 80 wire ATA 100 cables have this punch. It disconnects 1 pin. It is used for cable select. Automatic configuration of drives. Personally I have never used cable select because when u get a drive it is by default generally the master. If a person had 2 drives then this would require the reconfiguration of jumpers which is simple enough to do or change the jumpers to use cable select. Personally I have never bothered with cable select. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 04:58 PM	#11
Blakhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in harms way Posts: 2,768	Cool thanx guys Should have read HALs post about the cables and I wouldnta bothered yas. PS how do I add downing911 to my ignore list? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-23-2002, 06:18 PM	#13
Colonel Sanders Resident AMD enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,445	What about if you put the connector on at a 45 degree angle or so? wouldn't you get problems with the delays? Has this ben done before without any problems with the signal delays? Logan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Main: Gigabyte GA-770T USB3 - Phenom II 840 - 4GB DDR3 - Radeon 5750 1GB HTPC: MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - Athlon II 250 - 4GB DDR2 - Radeon 5670 512MB HTPC: Zotac GeForce 6100E-E - Athlon X2 5800+ - 4GB DDR2 "Play a Windows CD backwards and you'll hear satanic voices, thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows."

02-24-2002, 12:40 AM	#15
joe merc Member (5 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 24	Not all have that wire punched. Many just don't have a pin connected to the wire as I posted in this thread that I mentioned above. ============================================================================== I will correct what I said in a previous post. All the ATA 100 cables I HAVE SEEN have had the check in the cable. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-24-2002, 01:53 AM	#16
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02-24-2002, 06:54 PM	#17
Colonel Sanders Resident AMD enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,445	hmm, I guess your right that the connectors have to be parallel, but it would look neat to have one attached at a 45 degree angle(baybe useless, but cool). Logan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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